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T20 has messed our cricket up - Lloyd

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03 Jan 2015 15:42 #231634 by chairman
Former West Indies captain Clive Lloyd has said that West Indies cricket has been "messed up" by the T20 format, creating a situation where playing Tests for the country did not seem to be a paramount goal for players.
www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/...nt/story/816159.html

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03 Jan 2015 16:00 #231639 by DownUnda
Clive is spot on, I've been saying this for years now. T20 aka mindless cricket dilutes the skillset necessary to be a good test player

Teams like Aus and SA are able to maintain their prowess in tests due to the fact they can field almost two separate teams whereas WI can't since they don't have that talent pool from which to draw from

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03 Jan 2015 16:04 #231642 by boquiesse
Only in the Caribbean do we have folks determining what is "good money" for the players.

Does Cameron get paid good money for what he does? Does Lloyd? Or are they paid too much?

I have no problem with any cricketer taking money that is on offer from any T20 league over the WICB shyte.

Didn't Lloyd and a whole team take money from Packer and "abandon" the West Indies.

The WI players get nothing even remotely close to what dem Aussies, English etc make.

And didn't the WI pack the stadiums back in the day? The product stinks so he expect folks pay good money to see shyte.

And let's not forget Lloyd drop Bravo and say dem looking a young man for ODI captain.

STUPSE

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03 Jan 2015 16:06 #231643 by boquiesse
Simple solution - mek Cameron, Pybus, Lloyd and Co say dem not giving a NOC to any player to go play T20.

That should solve the problem!!

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03 Jan 2015 16:40 #231651 by boquiesse
From a 2102 headline:
Granted Narine was getting more than most. But Lloyd really expect any player to turn that down to get the peanuts on offer from the WICB not to mention the vagaries and downright spitefulness of the selection panels.

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03 Jan 2015 16:43 #231653 by boquiesse
Gayle get dropped from de WI when he and Hilaire did get into it.

It's a damn good thing that IPL was there.

In fact Hilaire thought he had Gayle over a barrel and when Gayle say "gimme de NOC" Hilaire run round like a chicken wid he head cut off.


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03 Jan 2015 16:46 #231655 by boquiesse
I hope Ramdin know de axe coming soon when Lloyd going to say dey looking to de future and appoint KB as cappo.

And then whatever lil money Ramdin was getting as captain gone up in smoke.

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03 Jan 2015 22:32 #231664 by TRINIDADDY
Lloyd is wrong.

West Indies cricket was messed up a full 15 years before the popularity of T20.

T20 and leagues like the IPL are making mediocre West Indies batsmen and bowlers MUCH BETTER than they would ordinarily be were they stuck within our own domestic system.

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04 Jan 2015 05:59 #231673 by Calypso
When AUS played WI last ... all the chat was that AUS was rebuilding the team and so were WI to whatever extent.

Well AUS rebuilt pretty fast to come back up .... but after two decades WI still struggling !!!

Can't hack this anymore .. like I said before ... I done and this done !!  :(

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04 Jan 2015 06:34 #231679 by Mail
I disagree to a large extent!

Kallis, deVilliers et al bat properly in T20s and are successful as tehy have honed their skills and techniques.

Where Lloyd may be correct is where techniqueless youngsters are baptised in that format.

However, that said, many Indian youngsters have had exposure to this format in the IPL and they have managed to make the transition!

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