Bassarath still in charge of TTCB

krishna · 10-27-2013, 09:56 AM · 1 person reading this discussion

#1
Trinidad express!


Trinidad and Tobago Cricket Board (TTCB) president Azim Bassarath won a third stint as head of local cricket after defeating former Test cricketer Dinanath Ramnarine for the top spot during yesterday’s TTCB elections at the National Cricket Centre, Balmain, Couva.

Bassarath won 28 votes to Ramnarine’s 20 in a key battle during the elections, which were conducted during the Board’s 57th Annual General Meeting (AGM).

Forty-eight delegates representing clubs, zones and affiliates voted at yesterday’s meeting, with Bassarath’s Movement for Change making a clean sweep.

Ramnarine was nominated to challenge Dr Allan Sammy for the post of first vice president, with Sammy winning that battle 28 to 20.

The other executive positions were unopposed, with the Movement for Change completing a clean sweep.

Sammy takes over from Dudnath Ramkessoon as first vice president while Lalman Kowlessar retained his position as second vice president.

The TTCB also changed its constitution this year to provide for a third vice president, and that post was won by new North Zone chairman Patrick Rampersad.

Arjoon Ramlal returned as general secretary while Sukesh Maniam was elected as treasurer for another term.

After the vote, Bassarath gave his assurance that the defeated candidate would be given an opportunity to serve to ensure that cricket continues to develop in T&T.

“Mr Ramnarine is a member of the National League and he is a member of the Board now and not only Ramnarine. We have Daren Ganga and Giles Antoine and it is important we have players like that and people like that who are members of the board now, and definitely I can give you the assurance that they are going to be utilised to make sure cricket is served properly in Trinidad and Tobago,” said Bassarath.

The TTCB president said that he and his administration have some work to do with the clubs who voted overwhelmingly for Ramnarine’s candidates in the Club Representative Elections.

“From the very beginning of this campaign I was very confident that we would have returned to office, and the performance over the past four years speaks for itself, and that is the reason why I think the people and the different affiliates supported us. We know we have some work to do with the clubs and we are going to do that, and I am quite sure in the next three years when elections are called again we are going to get every stakeholder in the board supporting us.”

#2
TTCB Election Results
President
Azim Bassarath–28
Dinanath Ramnarine–20


First Vice President
Dr Allan Sammy–28
Dinanath Ramnarine–20


Second Vice President
Lalman Kowlessar–Unopposed


Third Vice President
Patrick Rampersad–Unopposed


General Secretary
Arjoon Ramlal–Unopposed


Treasurer
Sukesh Maniam–Unopposed


Executive Members (Unopposed)
Ann Browne-John
Ian Ramlal
Manohar Ramsaran
Tarrandath Sammy
Baldath Mahabir

#3
Bassarth looks like ah very smart fella.

it look like Dina's will have both hands full trying to get rid of him :Smile

#4
i dont know why ethnicity has anything to do with an undemocratic TTCB

#5
does an unbalanced representation mean that they will deliberately exclude people based on ethnicity, gender creed etc?

#6
The election was done the opposition lost
What it's the problem


Are  these folks crying election was rigged



#7
Indos doh share!

PNM shared.  Kamla and Bas did not..have not ::confused::

is that it!

the state does look absolutely Indiany from here..but I have not see it in a long time.

well if dat is the case good continuing lesson for nig nogs.  but by experience we appear to like it so. 

if it doh have people oppressin' we it doh feel right.  yuh know! :o  it doh feel like it suppose to. get up in the mawnin and ah pohleece din cut yuh rarse the night before is as if something missin'

we had all the power in Titty.  all we had to do is to make sure a place for us was maintained and expanded while letting everybody else move up. well Eric an dem chose to link up with ole Marse, to put their eggs in his basket with wat he have.... which required that nig nogs be oppressed, kept in their places..no local industrialisation based on national ownership of the means of production.

that meant while Indos built up all their people to some extent, while ordinary nig nogs were to continue catching...jess as in colonialism or slavery...little advance, lots of ignorance and stupidity and no solidarity and common group purpose.

but Indos have that in spades which made it certain that nig nogs would lose in the social competition.  ordinary nig nogs would lose..elite nig nogs would maintain something I guess but they would lose political power due to the stupidity of the whole Afro population, their preparedness to listen and follow the dictates of their enemy..like being guided by the family planning association and related NGO's whose purpose it is not to help families plan their lives but to reduce or eliminate their reproduction

Trinidian/west indian black people cannot understand reasoning like that.  as a nig nog yuhself you explain that to dem and they sell you out to the authorities...call the pohleece fuh you.  you cant tell dem anything 'bad'..rather truthful... about white people.  white people look like Jesus and dat is enough fuh the religious skunt an' them. ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

so look at them now..declining away, lorse everything..doh understand what happening to them..and cyar tell them truth because deh wont hear it and respond as they should

Indos with common group purpose, drive, smarts were bound to dominate.  any group living near to, next to, in and among black people are bound to win and own everything  in the vicinity in time. 

black people are really helpless in general world company.  we cannot work for ourselves and in our own collective interest.  black people are only energized and focused against ourselves.  we fight each other to the limit, kill each other..dont care...all in the interest of others.  we cannot do that with anyone else in the world regardless of what they do to us

Indian people are racist..not all but at least a lot are.  Indos look out for themselves etc.  but what does that matter.  Indos can be what they want, seek to do what they want..run and own the whole world..IF THEY CAN ::confused::

what matters for me is what I do.  if I choose to let Indos run the world then whose fault it is.  Indos can only run the world if I don't compete.  and I dont!  case closed.

#8
For those of you who knew about the reign of the PNM under Williams, you would know that the party was all blacks with Kamalodeen Mohammed being one of a very few non blacks in government.


All public office was the domain of blacks and it was literally unheard of for non blacks to get a look in, so the rest just had to get on and they did and do by the looks of it.


Economic power in those parts lie with the Indians, Chinese, Syrians and Whites so you would expect some prominence as that is the way of the world and money talks.


I do believe that institutions should be representative of its people by ensuring access is available to all from education onwards. In cricket, in Trinidad, I can only assume it is those who support clubs financially who eventually gain influence and that will continue, I am sure.


The WICB is Afrocentric and, subject to correction, cannot remember an Indian CEO or President given they are amongst some of the best business innovators in the region. Is this something one should be concerned about?


Post 1962 it became apparent to all that the isles belonged to the Blacks and opportunities and office clearly endorsed that.


Any administration would take those wth them they feel support their agenda, whatever that is. If the admin ends up all white or blacks, that is fine as long as it does not intentionally exclude others on a superficial basis.

#9
For those of you who knew about the reign of the PNM under Williams, you would know that the party was all blacks with Kamalodeen Mohammed being one of a very few non blacks in government.


All public office was the domain of blacks and it was literally unheard of for non blacks to get a look in, so the rest just had to get on and they did and do by the looks of it.

Quote:you see that above there..them 2 paragraphs.  that is just justification on the part of mail for what Indos do now and what is to come from Indos in Titty.  Mail never speaks truthfully with a clear picture of the situation and he never researches o fidn out if what he says has any validity at all.

who was Dr Patrick Solomon, Dennis Mahabir, John O'Halloran, Sir Allan Reece and many, many more in the PNM government from the start.  and how did  Patrick Mannings government look but the end of PNM rule?.

then again what is the real picture of Trinidad from lets say 1956 when Eric Williams came to power and currently...what was its population like by number and composition by the ethnic numbers.  here is an approximation:  1957..population 860 thousand...50-60% African..30-35% Indo..white, syrian, mixed, chinese remainder.

by 2013 we have had the adjustments that reflect an Indo majority, a black reduction as % of population, virtual elimination of chinese as a population factor and strong growth of mixed population. 

now no one interfered with Indo growth in Trinidad. if that happened in Guyana it did not happen in Trinidad.  there is no way there would have been such strong Indo growth had black people form such a position of strenght stood in the way of Indo progress.  that is my argument here.  black people were not looking out for self and group and instead made it easy for others to progress while we stood in our own way as we do globally.

let ketchim tell you who the big contractors are, and for how long..the really big landowners and most landowners and how that came to be..why black people traditionally had no land and Indos were given land..given not bought or earned over black people, who deserved such assistance far more than any other group


Economic power in those parts lie with the Indians, Chinese, Syrians and Whites so you would expect some prominence as that is the way of the world and money talks.


I do believe that institutions should be representative of its people by ensuring access is available to all from education onwards. In cricket, in Trinidad, I can only assume it is those who support clubs financially who eventually gain influence and that will continue, I am sure.


The WICB is Afrocentric and, subject to correction, cannot remember an Indian CEO or President given they

are amongst some of the best business innovators in the region. Is this something one should be concerned about?



Quote:you dont know what the hell you are talking about.  Indos wanted no part of west indies cricket, kept away from it religiously and focused on their own business.  it is the same thing with the nation.  Indians took little part in the politics of independence and where they did often sought to frustrate nationalist movement.

west indian cricket almost all the way through was a white mens creation, and who were responsible for its development with black people as players, as part of an independence struggle for equal representation for all.  on the field ordinary black west indians made cricket what it is.  the black elites left the white man in charge when political independence was achieved and took over when local white people as a political force waned out.  but it is the black elites with their colonialist orientation took over and represent really a continuation of the old planter dispensation.

Indos as a constituent part of west indies cricket..when they really began to get involved as a part of the population... really began by about 1970. 

no one ever stopped Indos from playing.  that was their choice. when they played if they were good enough they were selected...especially in Trinidad.  by the late 1940s at times there were as many 4-5 indos in Trinidad teams at the same time there were no blacks in it at all.  but Indos have not produced as many great players as afros and have not competed for place at the wicb...save in the case of Chetram Singh. 

and as we can see being elected o anything at the wicb is a function of nationalist representation at the board itself.

Trinidad and Guyana  send reps to the board and an Indo president/CEO is becoming ever likely as time passes.

but the wicb is not about race but elitist/bureaucratic control of the game..as it is the same question for control of all of west indian society..indeed the central issue of social control on the day globally....of global society

and there is so much more to the question than just Mails generalizations here


Post 1962 it became apparent to all that the isles belonged to the Blacks and opportunities and office clearly endorsed that.

Quote:total bullshiite


Any administration would take those wth them they feel support their agenda, whatever that is. If the admin ends up all white or blacks, that is fine as long as it does not intentionally exclude others on a superficial basis.

Look here

Quote:the issue must not be race at all..the issue is class society and social control by class minorities in their interest at the expense of the majority. 

unbalanced but all powerful and dominant ethnic representation in anything means exploitation in class society. 

the solution  is to end of class society and establishment in its place democratic society in which the purpose of social function, of the social life,  becomes the survival of the society itself..

then ethnicity ceases to matter.  it does not matter who is in charge. all will be energized by the social purpose which is the survival of society as a whole..for the society guarantees the survival of the individual and not the individual that of the society

#10
mapoui,


Nothing I have said suggests taking sides or advocating bias or injustice.


The statements outline a historical context and how some would be seen as disillusioned. You will know when people feel unduly treated there are future repercussions. If you fail to acknowledge that post 1962 all of the civil service, Police, Fire Service etc weer the domain of Blacks then you really do not know what you are talking about. These observations have no bearing on ethnicity as Dr. Job. 


Two wrongs do not make a right and that applies to all and in all directions.


If you want to sensationalise issues rather than discuss them then so be it.


My parents were long standing Members at the QPCC and I spend much time there but I recognise that the undue influence should be redressed and one hope that is the case.

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