It would be great if we finally joined the rest of the world in not immorally obstructing Palestinian statehood in their own territory. Israel has now finally admitted that it has no intention, ever, of accepting statehood or vacating the territories they are illegally occupying. Israel has an absolute right to exist but no mores than Palestine's. And what groups are in charge of Palestine politically, no matter how much we disagree with or even actively oppose them, does not justify denying the people sovereignty in their own lands.
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As a nation---our beliefs do not encompass a concept of "chosen people". We are a nation that advocates equality---not apartheid.
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Just Listen to Hagee !
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does not justify denying the people sovereignty in their own lands.
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Listen to that hagee :youtube link for the first 3 minutes !!
hagee incites the American christians that Abraham was given the Land 4000 years ago !
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It would be great if we finally joined the rest of the world in not immorally obstructing Palestinian statehood in their own territory. Israel has now finally admitted that it has no intention, ever, of accepting statehood or vacating the territories they are illegally occupying. Israel has an absolute right to exist but no mores than Palestine's. And what groups are in charge of Palestine politically, no matter how much we disagree with or even actively oppose them, does not justify denying the people sovereignty in their own lands.
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what gives Israel any absolute right to survive ::confused::
Isreal has no right to survive. Israel is a fake and a fraud and the 'absolute right to survive' is a post war propaganda construction we have come to take for granted. it requires full re-examination
the Jews are not even Jews. they are europeans...a small european polulation.. who adopted a religion judaism..that's all. they have a european history, pedigree, provenance. they are from the mountains between the black and caspian seas. they lost and were dispersed in Europe, from Hungary to england, including Poland and Germany where they were most numerous.
deh have no other connection to judaism but conversion. and they have zero, zilch connection to Palestine. they have a long history prior to conversion that is more dominant in their collective make-up than judaism. that is what informs their absolutely atrocious behavior in the world and is prolly best expressed in their torah.
they stole Palestine with the collusion of european powers who were racist and for their own, gave them nuclear weapons even. israel fulfils a white elitist imperialist function in the middle east. they all know what israel is all about...they created it.. and who the jews really are. they always did. but it is a white elitist effort in western european determination to control planet earth, to keep their form of capitalism going..ultimately engineering a brave new world of biological means to control people permanently
the state of israel has no absolute right to exist as a state..european Jews. and other jews, the real ones... they are small minorities in lots of countries, citizens of those countries. they are not looking for any country of their own. most will not even go to Israel.
the european jews used to be europeans, citizens of european countries. they can go back there. they have no right to a state of their own...AND EVEN LESS TO GO AND TAKE THAT WHICH BELONGED TO OTHERS. THE AGE OF CONQUEST IS OVER..LONG BEEN OVER.
