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18 Jul 2014 22:11 #202282
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WASHINGTON — The United States government has concluded that the passenger jet felled over Ukraine was shot down by a Russian-made surface-to-air missile launched from rebel-held territory and most likely provided by Russia to pro-Moscow separatists, officials said on Friday.
While American officials are still investigating the chain of events leading to the destruction of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 on Thursday, they pointed to a series of indicators of Russian involvement. Among other things, military and intelligence officials said there was mounting evidence that a Ukrainian military plane shot down just three days earlier had been fired upon from inside Russian territory by the same sort of missile battery used to bring down the civilian jet.
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19 Jul 2014 09:34 #202297
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Would not surprise me in the slightest if I'm honest. Russia has been doing some decidedly dodgy things lately. I just hope this was some sort of...I dunno, accident and it wasn't an intentional hit, although I imagine that's just me being altogether too hopeful.
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19 Jul 2014 10:08 #202298
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::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::
follow the interest! where is it in Russian interest to bring down that plane?
who has the future here..who is winning in the world Russia or the USA ::confused::
the only loser is Zion/USA spoiling for a fight doing all in their power to provoke Russia into a fight. the only adult in the room is Russia because Russia knows where it will lead. America has no ordinary strength any more to wage conventional war
the american army is wasted, used up, tired. america is exhausted industrially dependent on their enemies for the parts for their military hardware..for their financing too. in any regular war america has already lost. so before a day of war is is done america will resort to..will have to resort to... nuclear weapons and the human species is toast.
it is either that or accept defeat. and they will not do that.
America is done. the Jews may not be, depending on if the Israeli parasite can latch onto another big host they can bleed dry.
so why would Russia bring down a Malaysian airliner full of civilian passengers ::confused::
there is no point to it, no advantage, when Russia holds powerful cards in the world that assures its economic future..and at the same time America holds none.
bringing down that plane is the MO of Poroshenko the the Jewish beast running Ukraine. and it is the Americas who put him there.
the americans are lying through their teeth, a major ability and practice of Obama and his administration..LYING. they know who did it and it is them.
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19 Jul 2014 17:17 #202369
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ROZSYPNE, Ukraine - (AP) -- World leaders demanded Friday that pro-Russia rebels who control the eastern Ukraine crash site of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 give immediate, unfettered access to independent investigators to determine who shot down the plane.
At an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council, the U.S. pointed blame at the separatists, saying Washington believes the jetliner carrying 298 people, including 80 children, likely was downed by an SA-11 missile, and "we cannot rule out technical assistance from Russian personnel."
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19 Jul 2014 17:20 #202371
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[color=rgb(6, 24, 38)](AP) -- Less than five months ago, they had rushed to Kuala Lumpur International Airport -- anxious relatives with a hope in their hearts, however faint, that a missing jumbo jet with their loved ones had not crashed, and would eventually be found.[/color]
[color=rgb(6, 24, 38)]This week, throngs of relatives came again with no hope, just a chilling certainty that everyone on board another Malaysia Airlines had perished.[/color]
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20 Jul 2014 11:41 #202432
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MH17 flight feared to have been shot down over Ukraine was taking a significantly different route to the usual course for flights from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, according to aviation expert
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20 Jul 2014 11:48 #202435
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The crashed MH17 flight took a route 300 miles to the north of its usual path, an aviation expert has said. Robert Mark, a commercial pilot who edits Aviation International News Safety magazine, said that most Malaysia Airlines flights from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur normally travelled along a route significantly further south than the plane which crashed. Malaysia Airlines has insisted its plane travelled on an "approved route" used by many other carriers. But Mr Mark said: "I can only tell you as a commercial pilot myself that if we had been routed that way, with what's been going on in the Ukraine and the Russian border over the last few weeks and months, I would never have accepted that route. "I went into the FlightAware system, which we all use these days to see where airplanes started and where they tracked, and I looked back at the last two weeks' worth of MH17 flights, which was this one.
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20 Jul 2014 11:59 #202439
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"And the flight today tracked very, very much further north into the Ukraine than the other previous flights did ... there were MH17 versions that were 300 miles south of where this one was."
Records of recent MH17 flights on the FlightAware appear to bear out Mr Mark's claim, with earlier flights significantly further south than the flight that crashed.
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21 Jul 2014 09:58 #202527
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[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)]I am pretty sure they are hiding something..aren't they..it is also evident,since they don't want investigators there.There is enough circumstantial evidence without the black boxes..How can a pilot fly over a war zone..? 300 miles off course..?? Doesn't this look like a conspiracy and a well hatched plot..?
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