here is honest and true moronism fuh allyuh. establishing a straight up emotional opinion..rather conclusion..on an issue that is far from settled fact. because of the nature of emotional commitment people refrain from concluding until the facts are in.
all that we know about america and how they go includes the possibility that this is a set up along the lines I have suggested, for some social purpose not in line with the interest of the majority?
THAT IS A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY..THAT A MAJOR MANIPULATION IS AFOOT.
for eg: ALL GORE TOLD US THAT GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL..AND FOR ONE THING THAT THE WORLD WILL BE FLOODED WHEN ALL THE ICE IS MELTED, THAT THE POLAR BEARS WOULD DROWN. YET SIMPLE CALCULATIONS OF REGULAR REALITY, OUR OWN MINDS SHOULD LEAD US TO ARE INOPERATIVE SO WE BELIEVE THE GORACLE AND BOUGHT HIS GREEN SHARES ON HIS GREEN EXCHANGE SO MUCH THAT HE IS NOW A ZILLIONAIRE IN A WORLD THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE MELTING.
WHERE IS HE GOING TO SPEND HIS MILLIONS. THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BOTHER HIM AT ALL. HE KEEPS RAKING IN THE MILLIONS.
BUT HERE'S THIS: THE PLANET HAS GONE THROUGH MANY ICE AGES AND NO FLOODING..WHY? BECAUSE THE ICE OCCUPIES SPACE AND AS IT MELTS IT FREES UP THAT SPACE FOR THE WATER TO OCCUPY..TO MELT INTO. PRESTO! BALANCE..NO FLOODING!
TO PROVE THIS FILL UP A GLASS WITH WATER CONTAINING BLOCKS OF ICE. FILL IT TO THE BRIM AND WATCH THE ICE MELT AND NO OVERFLOW. THAT IS BECAUSE THE SOLID ICE OCCUPIES SPACE IN THE WATER THAT THE MELTING ICE-WATER OCCUPIES. NO OVERFLOW! YET GORE GOT EVERYBODY SCARED WITH THAT NONSENSE.
ANN WHEN WE LOOK BACK WE SEE SO SO MANY OF THESE MANIPULATIONS IT IS NOT FUNNY..LIKE THE WHOLE WOMEN'S LIBERATION THING OF YEARS BACK for eg. THE PAPERS ARE OUT NOW..FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. THE POWERS BEHIND THE THRONE DECIDED THAT THAT TIME WAS AT HAND FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF WOMEN AND RATHER THAN LEAVE IT TO CHANCE THEY FOMENTED THE 'REVOLUTION' AND SO CONTROLLED IT. THEY DID NOT WANT IT TO HAPPEN SPONTANEOUSLY, UNCONTROLLED, AND SO LEAD TO GENERAL REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE OUT OF THEIR CONTROL.
THE IDEA AND POINT WAS TO ENSURE THAT CAPITALIST MAN REMAINED IN CHARGE OF THE WORLD AT THE END OF IT..THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT ADVANCE WOMEN GOT, OR BLACKS GOT.. THAT THE MAN CURRENTLY IN CHARGE WOULD REMAIN IN CHARGE..PERIOD
THAT IS THE POINT ABOUT ALL THE MACHINATIONS BY THE POWERS IN CHARGE. SO WHEN WE SEE ALL THESES THINGS POPPING UP THERE IS BUT ONE QUESTION... THE WHY OF IT, OF ALL THAT IS HAPPENING.....WHAT ARE THE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES AND WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM SUCH OUTCOMES ::confused::
SO THERE IS NO REASON TO EMOTIONALLY COMMIT BEFORE THE WHY IS ANSWERED. IT IS STUPID AND QUITE IMMATURE TO SO COMMIT AND CONCLUDE
and what about incest itself as an issue?
there is no need to so respond to that issue. indeed it is totally ignorant and immature to so respond that way to questions about incest.
incest has been a huge part of human history right up to now, at times outright legal and fully normal social practice including marriages of related people..all degrees of relatedness. indeed currently incest is legal and practiced without prosecution over the majority of humanity...Argentina, Brasil, Israel, Holland, Spain, France, Japan,Russia,Portugal, Belgium..and as far as I know India and China.
there is no prosecution in these countries for incest activities. they do not allow Marriages but all else is legal, even having children. in Brasil,Argentia,Israel and right here in Canada marriages between aunts and nephews/uncles and nieces are perfectly legal. ask snoops the resident lawyer.
and somebody can try this..maybe the mathematicians Rev and ketchim: everyone has a family tree of 14 people going back to their great grandparents..which would be 30 to G, G, grandparents. now if we extrapolate those numbers back to the year 1200 or so..indeed any calculable point, giving 20 years to the generation, we would end up with many billions of people, far, far more people than ever existed at any such previous time. the worlds population at the year 1200 would have been around 450 million. yet if we count our ancestors linearly we would end up with BILLIONS at year 1200.
how can that be ::confused::
we would never find a congruence of population numbers that would permit any of us alive today to have a 'normal' family tree that did not include incest. it is mathematically impossible. it does not compute in any way shape or form
what the math exposes is that at many points along the way there were human population bottlenecks that could and were over come only by inbreeding. so that in family trees the only way that the bottleneck can be solved is that in the boxes where ancestors should be, blanks and doubles and triples must be included or set up or controlled for. so that where a G, G,G grandfather is supposed to be by himself in his box if we count in a straight line, he is not! he is one and the same with father and grandfather so occupies 3-4 boxes or slots in the tree. instead of looking for 2-3 individual men men in progression, look for one as father and grandfather and more too. that is the only way the numbers compress into any logical representation of the actual numbers of people who lived in the history of humanity. there is no explanation otherwise.
today full diversity and technological advance an end to incest is possible due to the expanding human population. it was not possible before but it is now. people migrate at will due to swift modern means of transportation. telecommunications put the world in touch with itself. anybody people can form unions they come to desire across cultures and languages etc. the world is now a village and more so it will become, if democratic revolutions sweep the remnant capitalism into oblivion
also what has to be regularized is the true story of how we got here and openly and without taboo make the social choices that are akin to survival, expansion, no incest. but it is social survival that would help ensure. incest is not a threat to biological survival. that is part of the religious lies we have been fed with for so long..westernized people that is... more so of the usa, england and their religious colonies in the west indies.
westernized europeans already dont care about these religious limitations..nor most of the latin americans, Russians,Jews etc
if we keep the Taboo we would be always attracted. kill the taboo and any need for one by exposing the true human story. but if we do that we also erode the base for the current ridiculous capitalist system as a whole..which is one reason why we have this taboo-ridden approach that is calculated to, not to clean up human emotional problems but worsen them, to render humanity incapable of resistance to evil plans set up for us.
democratic revolutions will make it possible for the truth to become the basis of education and help to sweep all the taboos and 'deviations' into oblivion with capitalism
rather than approaching the issue this way..the way I have approached it..we have an angst ridden emotional paralysis from Waffman that can lead only to more ignorance.. not truth and the possibility of sanity on the issue.
I rest my case for the moment awaiting something from Wiffman
