Islam cannot be equated with Barbarism.

Lesson # 1....for the uninitiated !

They were wrong from the 10th Century and still wrong in the 21st !

No crusading christian army can break the will and the iman (faith) of a Muslim.

The only thing in Mecca you can count on is the 2 Pilgrimages annually.

eid ul Adha (the sacrifice and completion of the 5th pillar of 5 the Hajj ) and the Umrah !

the 30 days Fast with no food or water is not for fickle minded Consumerism 

             

Members on this Forum has attempted the Fast during Summer :

Muslims are the only ones whom can starve for 17 hours straight !

No Food , No Water for 30 days.

Break who spirit , TD  :-\

This is the greatest concentration of non-sense I've read since Ketchim's last post. ::LOL::

And the author of this concentrated non-sense can freely write all this babble in the comfort and security of Western secular values, traditions and laws.  Were he to live in one of those backward Islamic theocracies he so loves to defend, he wouldn't even be allowed to finish the first sentence without 40 lashes and the loss of at least 1 digit.

But carry on.  Defend these religious fascists and by necessary implication undermine the very values that allow you to write and express your thoughts and ideas so freely.

Oh hard headed one , go and read and educate self : 

When you read the memoirs of Edward Said, or talk to old men and women in East Jerusalem,

its clear that the great part of Palestinian society used to be absolutely secular and moderate.

It cared about life, culture, and even fashion, more than about religious dogmas.

Go to the mountain top and spew that crap you just wrote :  :

[size=-1]From a peaceful and creative civilization, that used to lean towards socialism,
the Muslim nations and Islam itself, found itself to be suddenly derailed, tricked,

outmaneuvered, infiltrated by foreign religious and ideological implants, and transformed

by the Western ideologues and propagandists into one ‘tremendous threat’;

into the pinnacle and symbol of terrorism and intolerance.
The situation has been thoroughly grotesque, but nobody is really laughing –
too many people have died as a result; too much has been destroyed![/size]

Then go back to those secular values!  What has terrorism and fascists Islam done for the Palestinian people?  Absofackinglutely nothing.

Remember, in that conflict God is on the side of both peoples.  That is the why it is unsolvable.  Mr. God promised both peoples the same land.  They each have a divine right to it and the divine benefactor seems quite indifferent to both claims since he/she/it is unwilling to reveal itself and arbitrate same.

Maybe, just maybe, the adoption of secular values and the corresponding discarding of Islamic fascists values by the Palestinian peoples will bring about a State of their own and the chance to live freely and with dignity.

Mohamed from the Desert and  Joseph Smith founder of the Mormons from the Utah wilderness.

What was God thinking?  Both believed in Polygamy

Joseph Smith was convicted by a court of Fraud.  Need we say more.