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12 Worst Ideas Religion Has Unleashed on the World

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19 Feb 2015 00:31 #241725 by mapoui
www.wakingtimes.com/2015/02/11/12-worst-...ion-unleashed-world/

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19 Feb 2015 00:32 #241726 by mapoui

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19 Feb 2015 14:19 #241846 by Snoopster
Maps, I'll give you one of the most wicked, vile, immoral ideas religion has unleashed and imposed on the world: Vicarious Redemption.

What is vicarious redemption you may ask? It is the central teaching of Christianity.  Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, and Christopher Hitchens have all written about it but I think Hitchen's was able to distill it best and most neatly.  Vicarious redemption is the idea that you can throw all your sins upon another who will take the responsibility for you.  It's scapegoating.  In bronze age times there was a practice among the desert dwellers in the Middle East whereby a goat would be captured to take part in a ritual.  The ritual would entail that a person who had committed an evil or sinful thing and who wanted to be purged of the guilt would throw all his/her sins upon the goat.  The sin laden goat would then be taken to the desert and abandoned.  The former sinner's slate was wiped cleaned, his sins abolished and he was redeemed.

This is the exact same disgusting and hideous concept behind the central doctrine of Christianity.  It can be said that if I love you enough I can repay a financial debt for you.  I may even volunteer to serve prison time for your crimes.  But what I cannot ever do is to take moral responsibility for your actions.  This would be immoral and disgusting.  The idea of vicarious redemption, or vicarious forgiveness, is this very same disgusting idea that a person can abdicate their moral responsibilities for their actions simply in believing that Jesus Christ is the son of god, he died for my sins, was resurrected to the heavens, and will return again.  I can wipe the slate clean again if I do this, my sins have been abolished and I'm redeemed. 

I ask you Maps.  Have you ever heard of something more repugnant than this?

 

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19 Feb 2015 14:22 #241847 by ketchim
Hindus call it a Mahapatar : a Sin Bearer

it has worked successfully for centuries.

phuck  Hitchens  :P

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19 Feb 2015 14:26 #241850 by Snoopster

That is about as articulate a response as I expected from you - and most believers. 8)

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19 Feb 2015 14:29 #241851 by ketchim
You dont even know the concept of Mahapatars for the last thousands of years  :P

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19 Feb 2015 14:29 #241852 by ketchim
Like you dont know Abraham had 2 sons .

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19 Feb 2015 14:30 #241853 by ketchim
Like you dont know what the heck Bin translates to ...


The List of YOUR ignorance is phucking staggering  ::LOL::

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19 Feb 2015 14:32 #241855 by Snoopster

You have the intellect of a fly.

I addressed the question to Maps.  But you seem to take quite the offense to what I wrote.  The truth does very often tend to hurt.

And while you're losing mind over all of this can you do us all a favour and actually articulate your childish thoughts in a proper, cogent, and coherent manner?  Surely, you're at the very least capable of this.

Thanks. 8)

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19 Feb 2015 14:37 #241857 by Snoopster

Instead of bursting a blood vessel over what I wrote on the topic of vicarious redemption why don't you explain to all and sundry here why you think it is not a disgusting and immoral religious precept.

Come on, put that big brain of yours on display. 8)

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