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Fantina is Wrong About One Thing.....

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31 Jul 2015 09:02 #265885 by mapoui
www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/31/israeli-missteps-take-a-toll/


the damage to Israel from an attack on Iran.....

Fantina must be purposely underestimating what such an attack would precipitate.....immediately.

the Iranian will can destroy all of Israel with their long range conventionally armed rocketry which already is on par with the advanced world. the reason why they eschew nuclear weapons is because they have taken the explosive capacity of conventional weaponry to levels that must be approaching the impact of nuclear weapons...so much so that nuclear weapons are not really needed.

and I would wager that Iran has far more military capability than they have exposed to the world.  Israel would know this..and so does america and the big powers.  they all have much more than they let on that's for sure.  it would only be Israels confidence that the muslims are fooly and inferior and would be forever be fearful of using any advanced weaponry they may have against Israel for fear of being wiped out themselves.

that would be a mistake against Iran..for what that would make Israel do is to attack conventionally first, if they are going to start a war with Iran.  and what Iran would do knowing what would to follow would to seek to wipe Israel out with their first strike..from Iran and from Lebanon.  they would let it all go and Israel would be no more

Israel Israelis in nuclear subs and in hardened missile bunkers would then let loose missiles at the world.  they have targeted all american/european capitals.  and no doubt they have targeted others as well...India, Pakistan, even Chinese cities as as been exposed by the snitches. and Israel destroyed they will let all the have loose aimed everywhere.they will incinerate Iran but not before Iran incinerates them..leaving only their hardened weapons nuclear weapons bunkers.

so if the Israelis smarten up, think clearly not ego driven they would attack Iran immediately with nuclear weapons if they are going to attack attack at all. but even that wont save them.  there is hardly any doubt at all that the Iranians have prepared as well for that contingency and have enough to still destroy Isreal if they attack Iran..in any manner at all.

but the way things are set up in this equation it looks to me that in the event of an Isreali attack on Iran it would precipitate the human nightmare.  Iran would have no choice but to blow Israel to kingdom come.. and the Israeli would retaliate against the whole world in the process.

even if as fantina suggests they would drop nuclear bombs on Lebanon and Iran the blowback from that act kills the Sauds, Afghanistan, Pakistan,Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Israel itself.  the blow back reaches into southern europe and the Balkans, southern Russia. it catches the air and spreads around the planet in enough severity to precipitate a winter that prolly kills a whole lot of the human population and our global ecosystem.

the pure naked Jewish insanity is about to strike the human population of planet earth.  we let them..even helped them... get into a position to destroy us all.  we would deserve it

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31 Jul 2015 09:25 #265889 by 654321
Iran's air defences are largely Russian-supplied systems familiar to Israeli pilots, though Iran also deploys the US-built Hawk system dating back to the days of the Shah.

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31 Jul 2015 10:28 #265912 by mapoui
not so fast Mave.  they have built their own. 

that is the trick about the Iranians..they have become just about self sufficient in armaments.  and because of that the world does not really know what they have..how far they have advanced. 

what is know however is that have had a tremendous focus on such development because of the usa/israel threat.  they went out to become self sufficient with a vengeance..especially when the Russians refused to sell them the Sam300 for air defense.  they built their own... apparently just as effective as SAM300

they are now taking delivery of the Russian Sam I guess because they had already paid for it and more cant hurt

Remember they pulled down an advanced american drone, took it apart its technology and replicated it.  that is no small thing

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31 Jul 2015 10:31 #265915 by mapoui
anyhow..the point is Fantina's scenario...it is wrong...prolly because for obvious reasons he understates.

Fantina does not want war and shies away from the obvious scenario anytime it starts between those 2

it wont go like that at all.  it will be all out from the start...nuclear weapons and everything

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31 Jul 2015 11:50 #265943 by elcosteno

Iran's air force is seen by experts as being totally outclassed by its Israeli counterpart.
It has a small number of US-built F-14 Tomcat fighters and a significant number of relatively more modern Russian-supplied MiG-29s.

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31 Jul 2015 12:12 #265953 by mapoui
defense is what Iran military planning and expenditure is based on.  they are not an offensives military..are not about projecting power.

if you want jet fighters you want to project power..you need aircraft carriers, air re-supply planes...a terrific ground complement to keep the jets flying and so on...mechanics, spare parts, airfields, supply dumps.....

that is a whole lot of money man.  Iran is not interested.  projecting power is seriously expensive and will end up hocking the nation to the peddlers of debt.  defense based on the other had is quite different and much cheaper.  what you need is air defense, radar, rocketry that hit your enemy at home in the air and on sea.

that is where Iran has focused in spades and they are pretty good at it.  they may be toast after an an Israeli nuclear attack.... but so will be Israel. 

about that I am certain!  and for that reason if a war starts there its over for us all.  there can be no limit to that war. Israel is a small country and it wont take much to wipe them.  they cannot take the destruction of Tel Aviz..and they will not take it.but if Teheran is hit that is precisely what will happen..the destruction of Tel Aviz and more.

so that means Israel will then go in with nuclear weapons..if they do not go in right away with them.  its toast for humanity for that will expand everywhere and in less that a day we are dne

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