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14 Sep 2015 16:17 #271479
by mapoui
no sir. I wud have. I wud have gorne all the way. seriously committed.
I am still seriously committed but what I thought was necessary is in fact not necessary...that is sacrifice in the way sacrifice took place previously. that was wrong. there are certain risks that are unavoidable. at all times it is up to the people..whether they move or will move or not. no one can tell that. and nothing will work out long term unless they do move and create the new forms in moving and the forms are allowed to take hold..or the people forced the changes to take hold.
when the people do that, go right through it makes it harder for the counter revolution. they are committed, involved and all individual are part of the moving whole doing their part to make the whole work. there is no betray by the people then.
but when you see movement from the top down like it was then, back in our day. the opportunists get on board and have a real shot of corrupting the whole thing from start to finish. they are around the leaders, support him, protect him until they kill him, or expose him to be killed, and take over, curry favor with the enemy for cash and opportunity for themselves while leading the mass back into slavery.
that is why sacrifice is not necessary. remember googs ly. when MLK and Malcolm were preaching and leading lynchings had been eliminated and police shootings were nothing like it is today. what is going on today is far worse than in the 19 fifties and sixties. that is where the good reverends have brought us back to. so what was the value of the sacrifices in good lives?
just a question and a current view of mone..not actually anything hard and fast yet. I have not really looked at it deeply enuff. but it does look like the next phase of progressive social movement must be popular and spontaneous..no leaders and martyrs like in the past. the people are on their own now. they move collectively, institute irrevocable progressive change, or get enslaved totally and irreversibly
understand me eh..and stop chat nonsense!
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14 Sep 2015 16:24 #271481
by ketchim
Exactly Mapoui , black sacrifice in America is silly !
I can see African sacrifice in Africa : where there can be a Gain to their People.
BUT white america is a NO win situation for Black people.
btw : the police shooting you are hearing is because of the new social media.
In your 50s 60s example : it was hushed up and the black victim buried ..
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14 Sep 2015 16:39 - 14 Sep 2015 16:52 #271486
by mapoui
no it was not hushed up. in the american south they were proud of it. lynching a blacks was a public event, picnic and photographs and all that.. very festive occasions that no one hid.
in any case I believe you can access archives of lynching stats in america over a very long period of time, right here on the net
yes the stats today are very accurate but for the past events they were and are as well
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