www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/11/why-is-t...can-left-in-retreat/
Chavez and Maduro, Christina Fernandez, Dilma, Evo Morales, are not really socialist, just dangerous reformers..that is dangerous to their own selves/Lives. and Chavez paid for it with his life. fool. he died for much less than he could have achieved.
such reformers are dangerous to themselves because they do not really understand..or understand but keep looking for ways... to incorporate the capitalists or cooperate with them when they must be destroyed. these were and are willful believers in the the capitalist story, not the capitalist reality which, is clearly, simply spelled out in the article...capitalists will be capitalists. profit is what they are afte, profit is their game and that is that.
those leaders know better those guys..the must know better. the story is so simple. why cant they accept reality? what is their problem..a problem we find right across the left leadership spectrum globally..arsehole left leaders who refuse to believe what they know and understand is the nature of the enemy they have signed on to fight against.
capitalism is exploitation...profit by any means necessary..not business expansion to provide jobs and social development and all that. all that are incidental to capitalism. capitalists do not care about that.allof that is opposed to their purpose..profit.
all of that is that is the province of government as long as it does not interfere with capitalist profit.
and there comes a stage like currently, when the government public/sector itself becomes a means of profit taking, a profit centre...and it is invested/invaded with and by capitalist corruption and government connivance totally and gutted entirely of any social purpose at all. the people are expendable!. give them austerity!
Bob Rae with his corrupt and hypocrite and disingenuous third way was a perfect example of the failure of what passes for the left in the world. then they have adopted as is discussed in the article the absolute jac'arseness of the 'nationalist socialist revolution... creation of an indigenous nationalist capitalist class to fight the globalist agenda, to produce nationalist economic liberation.' I mean the utter stupidity of that conception is right in our faces, undeniable, unavoidably stupid.
how you are we to defeat capitalism by creating such a class of our own that would invest the local power, create a local capitalist dystopia that would in theory energize the people, teach them what they need to know existentially, so to create a further revolution down the word..the real revolution. what is insane prevarication? if that is not insanity then what is?
the people by and in all they do, are ready right now to proceed straight to socialist organization of society.
there is absolutely nothing in social reality to prevent the peoples' taking of such a step right now but the leftist leadership class itself, right in the middle, preventing such social progress right across the globe with their theoretical and actual stupidity and betrayal.
people such as Chavez himself, Maduro, all the Latin leftists..are in fact the greatest allies of capitalist themselves. what those guys push is the same Leninist bullsh!t that James ended up pushing in the theft of the Russian revolution from the people, making an historical ass of himself. luckily he came back and corrected himself.
anything capitalist is a waste of time,useless prevarication. all capitulations and compromises idiotic and suicidal, wasteful of the lives and energy and time of the people.
there is only one simple answer and I said it last time..go straight fully, comprehensively to socialist organization of society..and by that I mean any form of general social organization, created by the people in full social participation that meets the general social needs of the day..is the way to go. therefore Chavez and the rest had to take their revolution all the way, pushing all forms that broke down the current state and put the power into the hands of the people, so that their participation was enhanced 24/7.
in the years Chavez was in power there was enough time to progress at far greater speed, so that there would by now be no chance at all of capitalism coming back...for there to be a capitalist/bureaucratic reaction. Chavez could have achieved basic social transformation in that time so fast were the people moving. it is the people who saved him and Chavismo by their unassisted self organization to end the coup...when the coup took him over.
the people did that not the Chavistas. if that did not prove the people far ahead of Chavez himself, to be ready to go all the way, ready what the hell does ::confused:: ::confused::
Chavez had to to save his revolution but the solution was right there. but I contend that that is not what he wanted...fullly fledged socialism. Chavez remained starry eyed over capitalism and the capitalists until the poisoned him to death. the capitalist cannot abide by any social progress for the people at all. their system cannot co-exist with any social progress, capitalism requires the people to be on an ever descending slope of degradation for the people so that they cannot fight back against their exploitation. capitalism requires a stupid population in decline not in social development. those are 2 fundamentally opposed points that can never coexist
Chavez was starry eyed over capitalism.....that is why he left them with the media monopoly...why he did not Jail the boss of bosses Pedro Carmona for the coup that almost cost him his life. just imagine that..a man just committed high treason, was going to kill the elected president of the country and you refuse to prosecute him. and you leave with with total control of the media that lied/lies about everything in the nation, fools the people into belief of their lies, when there are legal means to end that nonsense right away.
it is opposed to any nationalist development for the media to be a monopoly and the government has the licensing power to ensure that that does not happen..or to correct it if it does happen. there is the answer right there. media monopoly was not a problem at all save the Chavistas made it into a problem by their refusal to take it away and split it up among the people to ensure a diversity of voices and points of view
there is and can be no compromise with capitalism. it is in the nature of the beast itself, systematic. capitalism cannot compromise systematically.. and capitalists do not compromise...never have, never will. they cannot do so at all..not even for an inch. they cannot because there business is not business that may stand on the usefulness and need of their production... that is needed by the people... but on theft and corruption, monopoly and government fixing society so they can rip the people off legally. they depend on government making criminality legal so they can avoid jail.
capitalist profit rests on CRIME..slavery and prostitution of all sorts, piracy and conquest, the selling of debt for manufactured need, selling drugs and drug addiction, political corruption of the governments of the world to fix the process for the purpose of rip off..and on and on and on..same way.
CRIME NOT VALUE OF BUSINESS ACTIVITY..CRIME FOR PROFIT. THAT IS HOW THEY MAKE THEIR PROFIT..NOT BY PROVIDING NEEDED GOODS AND SERVICES..CRIMINALITY RAMPANT..IN ALL AND EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY OF SOCIETY.
the capitalist cant compromise their system....compromise how? TAKE A GOOD COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM AND ASK HOW CAN THEY COMPROMISE? THEY CANT AND THAT IS NOT ON THEIR MINDS AT ALL.
WHAT IS ON THEIR MINDS IS FROM DAY ONE: COMPREHENSIVE SOCIAL CONTROL..HOW TO ACHIEVE THAT WITHOUT PRECIPITATION OF THE VERY SOCIAL REVOLUTION THEY ARE AFRAID OF... UNTIL IT IS TOO LATE FOR THE PEOPLE. and at this stage it is almost too late for the people.
that is my view of things..why I have been so comprehensive in my drive to promote clarity among ordinary folk about our collective reality...that and a lot more too. society will not survive under capitalism..cannot survive. capitalism is death and we are one step away from our collective suicide
what Renaud Lambert talks about I have known long time now. and the beauty of it is that I worked it out myself. I subsequently saw them talking about it, but I had long come to an approximation on my own. I don't need them to tell me. I can think, reason and do that kind of work. I can see society for what it is..humanity for what we are.
total social transformation of the working class finally, in full ownership of society, into a developed class which would encompass all of society..leaving one social class, developing on a basis of automated production.. the vast wealth of which would be disbursed on general social development, on-going and indefinite ....that is the point... the great achievement of humanity at this stage..we humanity, have developed the means to end all human suffering on planet earth many times over..and get this..ON AN ON-GOING DEVELOPING BASIS. IT CAN ONLY GET BETTER FROM HERE ON IF WE ACHIEVE THE SOCIAL ORGANIZATION TO PUT INTO PRACTICE
that is the end result of capitalist development and looming social revolution out of capitalist exploitation, and the beginning of the humanist future for humanity..our full human phase, unlocked by capitalist defeat and revolutionary social success
I thank Chavez an' dem for their contribution but very soon and early such as they become obsolete for their starry eyd love of the enemy. they become dangerous as described and there ought to be a quick further popular reform withing the movement itself, to get rid of such as Chavez himself, to put in place f by the truly radical people who really understand the situation, are fearless and know that the people must be let loose on the social problems and given every opportunity to grow as quickly as possible into full social control..full participatory democracy..planning and carrying out policy in one.
what the phuck were and are they doing playing with the capitalists, waiting for them to do what they will never do..build up the nation. they will tear it down for profit but they will not build it up same way. they may put up new buildings and build roads and streets but that wont be to facilitate the social development but to enrich their pockets..and facilitate the means of social control..to ensure the army and police can get to wherever they want them to be, to shut down the people.
Chavez and them had to cast the capitalists aside, take back the BANK and finance their on nationalist industrialization interest free... under popular ownership, utilizing the most advanced technology of the day..raising the people up one time, right to the top, transforming them by and through popular ownership. the people themselves would make the decision to eliminate many jobs by advanced technology, but by ownership of the massive wealth that would flow from automation, now belonging to the people, they can pay for other work targeted to general social development that the new technology would pay for
Chavismo had the world by its tail but they are really NDP..Canadian like fake leftists who are their own worst enemies