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The Return of the Coup in Latin America

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26 Apr 2016 19:48 #302484 by mapoui

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26 Apr 2016 20:07 - 26 Apr 2016 20:19 #302485 by mapoui
my argument is that the people of Argentina and Venezuela, despite 200 years of brutality at the hands of america, could not wait to elect again america's agents and representatives  to run their countries despite what the left had done for them over the past 20 years..

Argentina and Venezuela were run into the ground, the people destitute their nations broke and broken. assassinations were rife, no freedom of speech or media, no freedom to strike or fight for better wages and working conditions, limited educational opportunities poor heal no access to health and so on

the left in Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Brasil, Venezuela gave all that to the people.they had nothing at all before.  in Venezuela they got free university education, medical services everything..YET THEY WENT AND VOTED THE DEVILS BACK INTO POWER.

as far as I am concerned what is happening now is exactly what the people of these countries wanted so let them have it.

I was stunned when I saw the election results. so that is what all the fight was about, all the loss of life..the sacrifice of Chavez himself..so the people could give it all back just like that.. what had cost so much ::confused::

as I said martyrdom is pointless.  there must be no more sacrifices in the name of and for the people. 

the people..the people..people..the term that is so much in uses is a waste of time.  the people are a waste of time.  the people are not sacred.  they are greedy, narrow minded, fickle and traitorous of their own very best interest. 

that is why things never change... because the people in whose name all the progressive struggle is waged are rotten to the core.  no matter what they cant wait to be enslaved again.  I will not waste my time further as I watch what is going on in Latin America.  absolutely stunning.

the people are not fighting for their best interest.  they are giving it back to the americans by fighting their own best leaders..and voting them out of power

the Venezuela voting system in particular is above reproach so there is no case for stealing that election.  the people voted in the rabid right wing who are taking back from them everything they have earned over the last 20 years under Chavez and Maduro.

it was inexcusable political behavior by the people...inexcusable..to vote in the right wing.  but they did and now is wood fuh them.  they will pay severely for doing that.  let them enjoy what is coming up now. and next time let them go out in the streets and make their own revolution, lead it, do all they have to do for themselves.  that indeed is the only way.. period. 

and if they don't.. and cant make their own revolution so be it.  crapaud smoke deh pipe,  but no more martyrs for the people.  eff the people when it come so!

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26 Apr 2016 22:32 #302487 by Lavos
LOL  Is so amusing how filthy liars  are the average leftist media  propaganda. Luis Almagro is currently looking forward to activate something called "carta democrática", due to how the current venezuelan government is seizing by force the constitutional authority of the actual National Assembly. This does fit under a political breakdown scenario that justifies the effect of mechanism that suspend venezuelan government participation inside the OEA.

If they are so eager to denounce coup d'état. Then maybe they will be quite interested in how many coup d'états Maduro and his seized powers has already commited to the actual venezuelan constitution. And Dilma named Lula minister in order to prevent further investigations against him. How convenient She is already falling alongside him.

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27 Apr 2016 06:42 #302506 by mapoui
the appearance of probably a paid dis-informant/dis-informer. 

the establishment pays attention to lowly publications like this now..enough o send someone to spy and misinform and destabilize >:(

or is it jackass wifan again playing the arse with unacknowledged quotes fro real writers >:( >:(

get the disinfectant. wither way it is time to spray :( :( :(

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27 Apr 2016 07:45 #302510 by seupaulo
Brazilian speaking here.... it is only a coup if you believe there is no crime in the current government, what is need to be prove. I know we are using bad people to remove even worst people of power... but what should we do?

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27 Apr 2016 09:08 #302515 by mapoui

get up yourself and take over..the people..and runs society according to the general interest.

that is what will stop all the nonsenss period..dead stop!  and set society up for success.

no choice between evils lesser and greater will do.  a little or a lot, evil is still evil and not an option

you ever hear of a peoples revolution. spontaneously, creating the new political forms to meet the needs of all as they go ::confused::

that is what the Russian people did in 1917 and it was manipulated away from them by the Bolshevik elites.

that is what the Chezh people did in 1968 and Hungarian people did in 1659 and the Russian state capitalism invaded and killed those efforts at popular democracy.

that is what is needed now..everywhere.  spontaneous, directed by no party or organized group..popular democracy that creates as it goes the popular forms that meets all immediate social need on the spur.  then addresses same way the long term national needs.

it has happened before, has worked before but so far has been defeated in every instance.  well we must make sure the next time it happens it is not defeated.

screw the elites..all of them and their systems of exploitation of the people. put them to rest and now is the best time..while they are occupied fighting each other.  rise up and toss all of them and their capitalism that has brought the human species to its knees.

that is what you can do..not wallow in choice between evils... greater and lesser >:( >:( >:( >:(

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27 Apr 2016 13:39 #302560 by Lavos

That wifan guy sounds cool.

The establishment doesn't need to pay spies or anything like that. Its enemies are very good in screwing up themselves that the only thing that It must do is sitting there and wait . :P

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27 Apr 2016 14:02 #302567 by mapoui

well Chavez did screw himself as I described above...he and now Maduro wasted a whole lot of time, did not do what they supposed to do, and gave the right the opportunity they needed to come back..aided by some truly unconscionable political behavior by the ordinary folk of Venezuela which they are already paying for. 

far far far worse for them is to come

2 of the people who killed Chavez..their names does not come to my tongue right now.  one is that test who was waving the flag on top of Miraflores during the action to reverse the coup.

Chavez was impressed and brought him in.  he became personal assistant and chief of access to the president.

he was never trusted by others and when Chavez died he was turfed out to other work.  then he got married applied to spend his honeymoon in the Domincan Republic from when he went to Spain..then flown from Spain the USA in an America DEA aircraft. he is now in the witness protection in america .

marriage and honeymoon was clearly a ruse to get ot of Venezuela which succeeded.

the next one was that woman who was a maid whom Chavez raised to Treasurer of Venezuela..whose name I also cant recall at the moment.  she too has disappeared as far as I know but I don't know of any chronology of hers like I know of the other guy... who is likely more complicity than she was in the crime..although involved she certainly was

both of those people had full and routine access to Chavez, organized his meals had his clothes cleaned, set his appointments etc.  no one else could have poisoned Chavez but those 2

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