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The Indian Dalit

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20 May 2019 15:01 #371715 by ketchim
The Indian Dalit man killed for eating in front of upper-caste men

Jitendra was a carpenter and the only breadwinner in his family

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20 May 2019 15:03 #371716 by ketchim
A helpless anger pervades the Dalit community in the Indian village of Kot.

Last month, a group of upper-caste men allegedly beat up a 21-year-old Dalit resident, named Jitendra
so badly that he died nine days later.

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20 May 2019 15:04 #371717 by ketchim
The wedding food had been cooked by upper-caste residents because many people in remote regions
don't touch any food prepared by Dalits, who are the bottom of the rigid Hindu caste hierarchy.

"The scuffle happened when food was being served.
The controversy erupted over who was sitting on the chair,"
police officer Ashok Kumar said.

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20 May 2019 15:06 #371718 by ketchim
India's caste system is among the world's oldest forms of surviving social stratification.

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21 May 2019 09:45 #371743 by ketchim
Imagine this is the 21st Century : 20% completed !

INDIA still claim to be a Democracy :angry:

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22 May 2019 13:59 - 22 May 2019 13:59 #371782 by mapoui

I doan see why their anger mus be helpless! wat! deh fraid Hindu kill dem all fuh activitism?

well..what are Hindus doing to dem now..and for ever so long!? :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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22 May 2019 15:13 - 30 May 2019 08:14 #371783 by mapoui
I had problems with most Indians in Trinidad. they think I did not like Indians.

but that was a question I did not walk with. I walked in experience not ideology, theories etc. I by experience found Indians to be impse and gitz..totally prejudiced against Black Trinidadians and quite justified about it.

that's right..the thing that really, truly pissed me off..Indian Justification in deh prejudice against Black people. it was..and still is..chosen people territory and ideology in practice.

Indians were free to do as they pleased in Trinidad but not us. Indians were a collectivized group in all ways looking aftah Indians. that was absolutely right proper and good for them but not for us. if and when we d that we were engaged in somehow criminal, ungodly and prejudicial activity.

that was the incredible thing. we nig nogs did not have the right to get together and look after our group...yet we were pilloried socially for not doing so, for being poor and not taking care of self and group. but how could we when were dammed if if we did and when we did not?

the fact is the emotional intellectual propaganda package was there to stop us from thinking of our ourselves in the right way..just as Indos though of/think of themselves in the right way..collectivized. and the criminal part was the state was used to stop Black people from actually collectivizing to solve their social problem...which was and still is a wider collective white-Indo-Chiney-mixed project in the west indies: all ganged up against nig nogs

in that way Trinidad worked against Black people as effectively as the USA worked/works against their own black population. while on paper the ideological superstructure looks contradictory in practice it was not..is not

that was and is the most unfair of situations, the most unjustified. I saw it, understood it early and fought against it. they all beat up on me..Indos and Blacks too..who are so captured against themselves in that reality that the strike down their own messengers. that is when I came to understand Blacks better..and how we have been fucked up systematically.

but it is not only that with Black people. there are a lot of truly hateful Black people, against their own, as clear and deliberate as day. they just don't care..some bright and energetic people who occupy lots of powerful positions in the west indies. these are the Black people who are systematically sought out by setting up great rewards for them to sell out their own. these respond to the rewards and end up collected at the top of the location of the local power..the government. there they exercise the local power in the interest of the white man, who has largely retreated to his old cold home and now collects the wealth of the region administered by big nog Jefes and Indo overlords

nig nogs sided with the enemy against their own progressives and activists, against any local activity grown out of the people in effort to change their reality for the better. they were penetrated by the propaganda and where they were not they were simply looking for themselves at the expense of everyone else.

the system actually left us 3 choices..outlaw, activist and fighter for justice: believer, traitor and sell-out..rather Uncle Tom: or dead people walking, zombies zombified..apparitions flashing white but Black all over.

that was/is us living in the shit, living shit: its impossible so you accept it all and just live, breathe, at time give up and become a nutsman, wild on the streets, unkempt, thin, working at points for crap and scraps of food. some get a job at basement levels, make some money, have a shack somewhere, pay your bills and just exist, noiselessly... then die
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22 May 2019 15:25 - 30 May 2019 08:18 #371784 by mapoui
outside of west Indians for those reasons I don't pay much attention to Indian people of the Hindu variety..not unless I have to

Pakistani Muslims are a different story all entirely..aldoh I have little contact with them as well

I had to pay attention to Rohan Kanhai and Joe Solomon, to Alvin Kalliecharan for obvious reasons. they were great cricketers out of the west Indian game and no better exemplars of our game than those 3 were

I had to pay attention to V Naipaul..a most massive literary artist and contributor to the literature of the west..the English part of of the west indies

and there are other Indos of note from the west indies, currently, historically. one must pay attention to such people for what they are, is relevant to all of life, the issues they rise/raise must be addressed, expanded, dealt with, incorporated

Trinidad Indos in particular are exemplars of the Trinidadian/west indian culture par excellence.. there is such a culture now..not african or indian or anything else but west indian. it is fine in many ways. I can deal with Indos in this way..not in the old way which unfortunately still lingers,,way to long. it shud disappear, be gone fuh fuck sakes

but Hindu bullshit extreme prejudice still lingers in India..indeed is still fully fledged there. to my way of thinking that is particularly disgusting and awful for an huge society to be still like that in this day and age after all the revolutionary fervor and activity of the past 200 years or so

so I don't pay much attention to Indos..from India more so..but I do some with those from the west indies who are more regular and routinely human
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29 May 2019 15:49 #371961 by ketchim
They are some of the country's most downtrodden citizens because of an unforgiving Hindu caste hierarchy
that condemns them to the bottom of the heap.

The court had said that the Scheduled Caste and Scheduled Tribe (Prevention of Atrocities) Act
popularly known as the SC/ST Act, had been "misused" in the past
but the order sparked massive outrage
and the federal government asked the court to review its decision.

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29 May 2019 15:50 - 29 May 2019 16:00 #371962 by ketchim
According to activists, rising aspirations among young Dalits
have fuelled violence against them by upper-caste community members
who are unable to accept this.

Upper-caste neighbour built a 20ft high "caste" wall between the two homes.

"They built the wall so they didn't have to see our face any longer," says the dalit ,Kabira family !
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