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Mali's Tuareg rebels declare independence

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06 Apr 2012 14:29 #82802 by chairman
BAMAKO, Mali (AP) — Mali's Tuareg rebels, who have seized control of the country's distant north in the chaotic aftermath of a military coup in the capital, declared independence Friday of their Azawad nation.

"We, the people of the Azawad," they said in a statement published on the rebel website, "proclaim the irrevocable independence of the state of the Azawad starting from this day, Friday, April 6, 2012."

The military chiefs of 13 of Mali's neighbors met Thursday in Ivory Coast to hash out plans for a military intervention to push back the rebels in the north, as well as to restore constitutional rule after disgruntled soldiers last month stormed the presidential palace and sent the democratically elected leader into hiding. The confusion in the capital created an opening for the rebels in the north, who have been attempting to claim independence for more than 50 years.

France, which earlier said it is willing to offer logistical support for a military invasion, announced Friday that it does not recognize the new Tuareg state.

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07 Apr 2012 01:52 #82825 by Kwami
AL La set up to give the French an excuse to invade Mali just like the Ivory coast to counter the chinese

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09 Apr 2012 10:45 - 09 Apr 2012 11:28 #82879 by mapoui
another fight over africa..as if africans dont exist and supposedly  have a say over their lands....

132 yars after the first fight for africa and its dismemberment by europe,  africa /africans remain weak, stupid and ridiculous, while nations fight again over who gets to rip off the wealth and people of that continent...its living space

when will India get involved....Indians need space too?  or is india yet too weak to fight as the chinese and amerifcans do, carving out at least some space in whatever ways India/Indians can.  the sub-continent after al is very is crowded.

time travel...circa 2013 april first....Africa...Pop: including.... 1 billion including 750 million, chinese the winners of the african prize a hundred years earlier. 150 milion indo citizens.... 100 milion assorted arabs, muslims, whites and others...50 million african descendants scattered over the continent as slaves, menial workers, prostitues and the general sex trade serving the rest of the population.

back in the seventies we used to dream of he 21 first being the african century.  it now looms alright..as our last century of existence.

my experience of chinese in canada was for a long time a puzzle.  chinese racism, their ouright hostility to blac people made no sense.  they had no experience of us, no experience with us save for the hostilities back in the last century in china itself when chinese men rioted because african male students in china dated chinese girls.

now here in Ontario as a blac person, to speak to a chinse rotuinely uslually ends in anger at the usually utterly obnoxious chinese respone.

as chinese operations in africa are revealed an answer is perhaps being dislimned:  the chinese intends to take over africa...literally.  the chinese see africa as a plum ready for harvest ..space for their people.  inhabited by stupid people who do not know what to do with it it can be taken over, the indigenous people eliminated.

in this sense the future of africa may be that of Palestine, or the america of Plymouth Rock..the australian aborigenes.

the current racist attitude of chinese seemingly the world over..psychological justification for a cirme in the early stages of being committed..the elimination of africans and the absobtion of their lands by chinese invasion.  if your  are going to commit a crime against anyone or a people..a calculated crime for your specific reasons..the crime is psychologically sustainable only if the people  are worthy of what yu intend to do to them.

if the people are not worthy of that crime then they must be made out to be worthy. the individual and the nation if the crime is to be a collective enterprise... will build such a case against the people in your own mind and life as to justify your actions.

this type of reasoning can act as a sort of early warrning system. here yu have a powerful people acting generally horrifically in a manner towards a weak people, in ways that cannot be justified by previous contact between the two peoples.

such behaviour by the powerful people can be based not one what went on previously but on what is to come.  the intent to usurp those weaker people of something they have that the powerful people want.  it can be as simple as that.

on such a basis as simple as I can put it now african people must beware of the chinese aproach and realationship, how it develops.  the likely chinese plan must be twarted or africans will be no more.

africa is being infiltrated by hundreds of thousands of ordinary chinese who are already competing with indigenous africans at the most menial of levels.  soon I am sure the migrant numbers will reach into the millions.

the traitorous african elites are responsible for this by making the most atrocious, unnecessarily one-sided deals with china for african resources, that china needs more depseratly than africa need to make those ridiculous deals.

in angola for example China needs angloa oil and minerals.  yet the angolan leadership sees it necessary to make deals with the chinse that allows the chinese to build directly, using only chinese labour in africa, the reconstruction and development of that nation.  no angolans work on the building of angolan train lines, skyscrapers, roads and infrastructur etc.

how does angola win when the money for their resources is recycled right back to china through ridiculous one-sided deals?

I mean if you are going to make such deals you might as well let the country build at a slower rate, rather than hocking your nation, quite unecessarily, to what appears to be a vaprire system.

there are already thousands of ordinary chinese migrants in angola from the most menial levels competing with angoals in their subsistence life style.

the chinese deals appear to include provisons to allow ordinay chinese migrants into angola.  this appears to be the case right round africa, for as in angola chinese migrants at the most basic levels are findng thier way into africa

angolans complain about all this, poinitng out the dangers of such policy at the top. but angolan leadership pay not heed to the complaints of their people.  once again an african elite at odds with the wishes of the african people

africa!  oh africa!  wherefore art thou?
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09 Apr 2012 10:53 #82880 by chairman
so do you think marion berry could be right?

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09 Apr 2012 11:31 #82886 by mapoui
what did  representative marion BERRY, food advisor to bill clinton... have to say about this issue? ::eek::

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09 Apr 2012 11:34 #82887 by The Captain
he seh send all dem back to afrika

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09 Apr 2012 11:45 #82890 by mapoui

yu goin'?

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09 Apr 2012 11:53 #82892 by The Captain
what's the compensation

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09 Apr 2012 12:06 #82896 by mapoui
well yu tell me.  yu seem quite interested

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