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Seccession...Who Mentioned Seccession

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22 Nov 2012 09:28 #112139 by mapoui

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22 Nov 2012 09:31 #112143 by Nargis
Secession is not just an American Movement. It is a Global Phenomena.I have a real problem with people saying secession will tear the country apart. They say secession is the globalist plan to tear this country apart. In the Bible the 10 tribes of Israel seceded from Judah and the tribe of Benjamin because of High taxes. The Hebrews threw off the government and became their own country. Secession in the Bible was about escaping unjust taxation. The right of secession is a Biblical principle too. Secession is a Christian principle.
When we were 13 Colonies. The Declaration of Independence was a document telling the king the colonies have seceded from British rule because of a tyrannical King . It is a proclamation of secession from the Monarch. There were arguments to try to reason with the king that it will tear apart the British empire.
When Texas was part of Mexico, When General Santa Anna became the dictator of Mexico and trashed the Mexican Constitution started to oppress the people with high taxes. The people of Texas trying to plead with the Mexican government in a redress of grievance was met with a long train of abuses. The people of Texas seceded from Mexico because of the oppressive Mexican government.
The United States acquired the territories of the Philippines , Cuba and the Marshall Islands . in the spoils of war. All three islands gained their independence from the United States. Did the US government or the country fall apart? No, it did not. A large percentage of Puerto Rico still wants to secede from the United States than become a state or a territory.
When the old Soviet Union broke up. The former Soviet republics broke away from the Russia. It did not tear apart Russia. Russia is doing fine without the former Soviet Republics. The Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus and Georgia are all sovereign independent republics. It did not divide the people or cause a civil war. Secession is a healthy movement. It did not destroy Russia. Secession did not lead to mass instability after the communist system collapsed.The Scottish people are seeking secession from the United Kingdom. Greece, Spain and other European countries are seeking to secede from the European Union. Secession is a global movement. Countries or a people seeking this remedy to preserve their economic and cultural integrity. Secession is not an evil word. It is necessary.
With the recent election of Obama for four more years. People know this man is bad news. What he has planned for American is not good. States are seeking secession as a remedy to preserve their economic industries and the standard of living of what is left and sovereignty. Texas might be the first state to secede first. After that happens, we can see a chain reaction of other states following Texas.
For the people saying this is not good or it is a trap. Well not seceding is like a woman staying with her abusive husband. Being an abused spouse being beaten daily to near death. If she does not leave, she will die. To say she needs to stay in the marriage because the husband will change is a pipe dream. Secession is a political divorce from the party that has broken the compact.
States that stay in the union will suffer to the point of no return with no recovery. If states secede they can preserve their economies and stay free. Some states may turn tyrannical who secede. Some will flourish being free from the Federal government.
Secession is a global movement. It is necessary, it moral and it is right. Secession is a remedy when the other party becomes destructive to the states. I do not think secession will bring us a civil war. It will bring stability in the long run. The founders believed in secession. Early Texans believed in secession. Secession is good solution then. It is still a good solution today.

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22 Nov 2012 10:21 #112152 by mapoui
theintelhub.com/2012/11/21/secession-are-we-free-to-go/


Currently there are active petitions in support of secession for all 50 states, with Texas taking the lead in number of signatures.
[/size]Texas has well over the number of signatures needed to generate a response from the administration, and while I wouldn’t hold my breath on Texas actually seceding, I believe these petitions raise a lot of worthwhile questions about the nature of our union.
[/size]Is it treasonous to want to secede from the United States? Many think the question of secession was settled by our [color=rgb(0, 51, 102)]Civil War[/color].

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22 Nov 2012 15:21 #112227 by Kwami
secession or circumcision , it all have to do with separation of one part from  the other

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22 Nov 2012 15:47 #112231 by mapoui


( yawn )

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23 Nov 2012 09:25 #112241 by Nargis
Seccession is a big deal and cannot be just passed under the rug as something that happens just because.

I have a feeling that if some states do seperate, there will be some sort of civil upset with the federal govnt.

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23 Nov 2012 09:50 #112244 by mapoui


huge states, larger, largest possible, with control centralized.....


the parasitic power loves centralisation...easier...fewer people to corrupt and invest the power from the centre outward.


the centre doh like fracture...makes it harder to control...although this time, may be not.  the parasitic power has a structure that exerts power every state of the 50 already so it may not be hard to control if fracture.


so if fracture builds up and there is little or no central response to separation, threatening war etc, we may take it that the parasitic power is not afraid of fracture, still would have control..or believes that it would still have control..


still the central parasitic power loves war, its greatest profit source.  and as these days it wants population reduction desperately we may still see a very brutal civil war regardless..using secession as excuse.


maximum american death, especially nig nogs...maximum debt and profit taking...in the end all that remained financially enslaved..on every side. 


the parasitc power would spounce up ever side, finance every side, foment maximum destruction, and control it all in the end, still in charge

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23 Nov 2012 11:22 #112261 by Snoopster
To secdee, or not to secdee? ::lol::


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23 Nov 2012 16:38 #112315 by Kwami
  ::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::rofl:: ::rofl::  that is the question

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28 Nov 2012 10:21 #112662 by wilf
The goal of secession because the political culture of one part of a country departs radically from that of another part is perfectly noble and rational, and those on the left who are trying to paint it as an "extreme" position are doing themselves no favours.  The problem, of course, is that the supposed secessionists don't actually mean a word of it (for the most part, anyway) - it's just a squeal of pain, and yet another way of saying "I hate anyone who voted Obama".

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