****Flower''s & Pietersen's England tenure OVER****

Every single team that toured recently has lost with the Exception South  Africa in England. Gibson won 6 in a row prior to these 2 touring  defeats

England beat India away.


Oz lost 4-0 in India and the Coach was sacked with Lehmann as replacement.


Prior to NZ going to SL they had anew Coach as the incumbent felt he could do no more and for the sake of their Cricket stepped down.


Pakistan is just about to release Dav Watmore.


I would not be surprised if Kirsten comes to England next as he has done what he needed to do and take SA to the top of the Test rankings, which he previously did with India, albeit for a shorter period and winning the World Cup. He could have stayed on.


Gibson has just completed his fourth year as Windies Coach and, Jala, if you think he deserves to stay on then.........


Other Coaches would have done the right thing for the team.....

Vaughan seems to be talking out of his arse IMHO. If players were "scared", that'd have showed up way earlier. He's produced good results, and possibly one of the best coaches England's ever had.
Yeah, shit happens, it gets so much spotlight and is put under scrutiny because it's the Ashes.
And it was aggravated by the whole Trott/Swann scenario, which didn't help one bit.

Do you really think Gilo's gonna do jack? I mean god.

Kylester,


I would agree with Vaughan as he would not jeopardise his reputation in that way.


It is amazing what manifests itself when you are losing.


Yes, on numbers, he has been our most successful coach......ever.


The important thing to understand is that Flower chose to stand down.


I have been disappointed with Gilo's chopping and changing the team.


However Windies is a. Good place for Gilo to act into the role.


I suspect we would be targeting Kirsten.


I would not be surprised if he comes because he has a record to making his impact and then moving on.


Personally we should have an English coach.

I concur entirely .....and cricket is a game of numbers ...

But like most things in life .... You're only as bad as your last mistake :-[

But West Indian officials hold ONI for dear life.

Are you serious Mail ?? ....  a man of integrity and dignity who steps down VS a man who negotiates a new 3 year contract with a pay increase ????!!! LOL ::LOL:: ::LOL::

Caly,

Ha ha ha ha! ;D


I hear you but was hoping Gibson would learn as he has now been in post for 4 years!


Even Shiv' s biggest fan, Dujon, will tell you Bishoo was over bowled and discarded. There seems to be no real system for nurturing. Bishoo was a great prospect and Gibson has destroyed him.


The selectors, no doubt influenced by Gibson, go back to a confirmed failure in Best at the expense of Ravi and giving Holder a shot.


I do not know how anyone can negotiate such a contract. Perhaps he is not as stupid after all! Lol

Ebb and Flow, and Gilo seems to be the front runner right now.


Big talk with Downton, Gilo and Cook tomorrow to discuss Pietersen's future.


Apparently, Flower did not want Pietersen to play any further part with England.


I think now that Flower has stepped down, he should have relinquished any responsibility with the team and move on instead of remaining a selector.


I sense a bit of drama ahead.

I may have misquoted Vaughan in the scared statement as he said they seemed rather than they were.


Apologies.