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WI Best Players of Spin bowling

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26 Sep 2014 11:06 #215326 by Googley
who are they and how would you rank them?

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26 Sep 2014 11:15 #215328 by Rev Al

* Take a look at the batting averages of WI batsmen against subcontinent teams(India/Pak/Bang/SL)---min runs 1000:

* Click on the link to see the stats:

LINK: Stats


NOTE:

* Richards and Kali did not average 50+ against subcontinent teams.

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26 Sep 2014 11:19 #215332 by Googley
ahh, interesting stats, Rev!

but is that how you would rank their ability to play spin, based on stats?

The stats is a good starting point but not everything. 

for example, no one in their right mind would say that Chanderpaul is a better player of spin than Kalli!  :P

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26 Sep 2014 11:28 #215337 by Rev Al

* THE NUMBERS ARE REAL.

* Let's look at Kali and Shiv versus India.

STATS

* The Rev never engages in arguing---I just present the numbers. :D

* No question Kali was a great player of spin, but the NUMBERS don't lie---Shiv has better numbers against India.

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26 Sep 2014 11:28 #215338 by ketchim
Spin Bowling mus be looked at by Era :

Before and After the Invention of the Doosra and the Carom ball !!

Samjay ?

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26 Sep 2014 11:30 #215339 by ketchim
We can ONLY guess at how older Batsmen would have negotiated those 2 deliveries !

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26 Sep 2014 11:34 #215341 by Rev Al

* Kali played from 1972 to 1980

* Was he the best in that period against India ?

* NOT BY A LONG SHOT

* Richards, Abbas, Lloyd and Miandad all averaged in the 60s against India between 72-80.

* Kalli averaged 55+

* See link for stats:

STATS

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26 Sep 2014 11:36 #215342 by ketchim
None of them played Murali and saqlain Doosra and Carom balls...

and Warnie !

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26 Sep 2014 11:38 #215343 by ketchim
Murali has over 700 TEST Scalps ....

Warnie and saq got nuff as well !

Gibbs from the other era just a tad over 300  ;)

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26 Sep 2014 11:46 #215347 by ketchim
I submit that Gibbs ,Ram and Val :

had NO idea of the Existence of these 2 deliveries.

Saq came along and invented One .....Methink Murali or warnie the other one !

Puss Achong was the Last previous Invention : the Chinaman  ;)

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