Things Have Fallen Apart....Lloyd. CC..comedy central

all laud the achievements of Lloyds team. but I was growing up when Lloyd came into the west indies team and I know that from original, from the start, the jump...the people of Trinidad came to consider Lloyd a fool. and while they admired his fielding in particular they did not like Lloyd.

it was what they saw in him..ATTITUDE to things west indian, general outlook on life.

then when it was thought that Lloyd/Burnham had done in Charlie Davis... very popular Titty Icon... Titty dislike for Lloyd took an upswing

yes Lloyd led a great team and I acknowledge all his achievements. but Lloyd's legendary success on the field is not the same as Lloyd off the field and part of the administration of west indies cricket. as such Lloyd's hypocrisy is as clear as day... it is destructive and ridiculous like the locking out of Pollard and Bravo.

by reputation alone Lloyd should have brought peace and confidence in the people for the administration, at least the part of it he is now responsible for. instead Lloyd as chairman of selectors has added to the raspy relationship between players and admin..made it worse not better.

and Lloyd's hypocrisy is a sight to behold,  appalling.  it demands explanation...reconciliation really.. because he has punished players for behavior that mirrors his own behavior as player and captain.

and back then in the day,  he dropped Kalliecharran from the west indies team because Kalliecharran did not follow his lead..changed his mind. one of the best west indian batsmen ever, Kalliecharran: Lloyd caused the end of his great international career.

so even then Lloyd was punitive beyond reasonableness. when the dropping of Kalliecharan is counted, considered, the dropping of Bravo and Pollard is made clear for the punishment it is. Lloyd has proved he is capable of such duplicitous behavior. and that exposes him for who he is... no goddam revolutionary, fatherly and progressive soul but an old Marse type hypocrite, masquerading as progressive.

I like to try see things whole. I gave Lloyd every benefit of doubt I could. I supported him and came under pressure for such support. I cant support Lloyd anymore. there is no reason to...there is every evidence to call him what he is..a totally negative influence in west indies cricket at the moment

and please note this: but what Lloyd and the wicb demand from Pollard and Bravo..indeed the rest of the 'rebels'...is behavior that is 100% commensurate with Kalliecharrns behavior back then. they wanted the boys to compromise what they saw as their best interest, a clear case of wicb malfeasance..and be 'good' citizens taking the stick shoved up their rear ends by ole' Skam with a smile.

that is what Kalliecharran did back in the day..toed the wicb line, the management line, for the rewards he wanted...that he thought appropriate. Kalli was a 'good' boy for which he lost his career. it was Lloyd who was the rebel just like Bravo and Pollard currently... but now wants them to turn into Kalliecharran for which they would have been maintained...the same Kalliecharran he 'killed' back in the day

so what is Lloyd up to then..what does he actually want over time

he has destroyed two opposed types of west indian players..the rebel and the administration's type, those like the very suck up types he now appears to like..the types whom his current personality actually mirrors

EVERYBODY SHOULD SEE BY THOSE STANDARDS THAT IF LLOYD'S YOUNGER SELF APPEARED TODAY FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE WEST INDIES SIDE, HE WOULD BE WITH PACKER...ERRR!  I MEAN WITH BRAVO AND POLLARD.  BUT AS CHAIRMAN OF SELECTORS LLOYD WOULD PUNISH HIS YOUNGER SELF AND KICK HIM OUT OF THE GAME AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL...{KALLIECHARRAN}.

at which stage Lloyd himself would go poofffff! and disappear...for having destroyed his younger self his older self could not exist.

now Lloyd is off all over the planet making speeches in defense of his own old, backward, un- progressive policies to audiences already convinced that that kind of oppression of ordinary people is the best way to proceed in life...monied people of power and influence.

what old, fatherly munchkin Lloyd, with the stupid stories he likes to tell in effort to buttress his fatherly arseness image... is likely playing for are english awards..MBE -OBE- Knighthood and Peerage...with all his lap dog subservience

I have lost all respect for Clive Lloyd. his cricket records stand apart and I consider them on their own. but I have come to know and finally to accept Lloyd for who he is. and who he is is of no advantage to west indies cricket which is what is important to me... and why we are discussing Lloyd in the first place

where is the pie buss parked these days anyway.  we have seen nor heard form him in a long while. the man has disappeared literally

Beat up on England with 2 days to SPARE 

" the people of Trinidad " can jump in Maracas Bay and then Jump up and wave    ::LOL::

Maaaannnn : Trinidad get the Coach work and still Ungrateful !

TD , does Mapoui long winded nonsense above reflect all TiTies ?    :-\

hahaha!

TnT got coach wuk while small islanders got deputy wuk!


what wuk Gibbs got?  He is driving around with the team and his cousin Clive!!  :-[ ::LOL::

IF you only know how I love dem 2 chaps ....great conversationalists !

Cricket anecdotes/stories abound at the Bar  ::LOL::

dude, the two greatest "gaff men" around...as long as you buying drinks!!  ::LOL:: ::LOL::

True ! Lance red man face does get redder

Clive just looks totally unphased " ordah de cut up chicken"  ::LOL::

dem men used and still carry on till 2/3 in the morning!

2 Guyanans in deh anti trinidadian nous..including full out Guyanan Lloyd family nepotism..I almost said inc...t

and now there are 3.

pheeeeeeeeeeew!  anymore..snoops, Rev, Ramesh...kwami fuh sure..as soon as he reach

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