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West Indies batting troubles

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01 Aug 2016 11:09 - 01 Aug 2016 13:19 #315404 by dillinger10
West Indies middle order woes
by dillinger10
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After another dismal batting performance, I thought I would take a deeper look to see how West Indies batsmen have fared recently. Spoiler Alert: Not good. Those that are squeamish, look away now.

Over the last two years, West Indies have a collective team batting average of 26.49. This is the second lowest in Test cricket. Only Zimbabwe (23.48) have a lower average.

In 31 innings, West Indies have more scores under 200 (10), than scores of 300+ (6). No team has a lower percentage of scores of 300+.

The middle order has been the biggest weakness with the Samuels, Bravo, Ramdin, Blackwood and Holder all being far below average. Chanderpaul (41.18) is the only middle order batsman with an average above 32.

Over this period, West Indies top order partnerships (1-3) have averaged 30.92 - the second lowest. The first three wickets have combined for 16 partnerships of 50+. Australia top the list with 42 fifty partnerships.


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The middle order (4-6) has been the worst in Test cricket, averaging 28.55 with 12 partnerships of 50+. Of the 89 partnerships, 34.83% have resulted in single-figure scores. A further 21.34% have resulted in partnerships under 20.

To help put their ineptitude into perspective, the collective middle order average partnerships of the other nine Test sides is 42.62.

Things get even worse when playing overseas, with the average middle order partnerships dropping all the way down 21.95 with just 3 partnerships of 50+ in 42 innings.


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Conversely, the tail (7-10) has performed admirably, averaging 20.77 - 5th best - and with as many 50+ partnerships (12) as the middle order.


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01 Aug 2016 12:39 #315416 by ketchim
Without Shiv, a prematurely cast aside Guyanese  !

that 4-6 batting stat would be even WORSE  :-[

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01 Aug 2016 13:24 #315427 by dillinger10
The whole Shiv situation looks worse day by day, especially with the ongoing struggles by the middle order. Finding one bat to help stabilise the middle order and an opening partner for Brathwaite would at least go someway to improving the batting. Of course, that is easier said than done, but to keep trotting out the same batsmen and hope for different results is the definition of insanity.

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01 Aug 2016 16:09 #315452 by ketchim
dillinger, see prediction thread !

Lead is 304

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01 Aug 2016 16:12 #315454 by dillinger10
Based on the numbers, my prediction is 252. West Indies average 3rd innings score at home over the last 2 years is 251.75.

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02 Aug 2016 14:12 #315596 by dillinger10
Same old, same old. Partnership scores for the first 3 wickets: 5, 36 and 0.

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02 Aug 2016 14:17 #315597 by dillinger10
West Indies batting average in this series so far is 21.11. Their all time lowest batting average in a home series is 17.45 against Australia recorded last year . The only other series with an average lower than 21.11 was the 2011 series against Pakistan , when West Indies averaged 20.77.

stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/i...ype=team;view=series

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02 Aug 2016 14:25 #315603 by gamer2x
You are forgetting that west indies has had a problem with coaches and board as well.

If players aren't even sure about their dues, they would not be able to concentrate on the game when they don't know whether they would be getting paid or not.

When you consider all these obstacles, you would realize that it would take them at least sometime to come back from the brink.

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02 Aug 2016 14:26 #315607 by The Captain
well I don't think they should be paid , they should show their worth

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02 Aug 2016 14:29 #315611 by dillinger10
Am I? We are all well aware of the ongoing troubles off the field. That, however, doesn't change the fact that the same batsman continue to get selected when they are clearly out of their depth. They aren't good enough, yet they continue to get selected. Samuels, Chandrika, Holder, Ramdin, Blackwood have all played extensively and been below average for a number of years, as evidenced by the research I put together.

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