Quote:Cant you not see the territorial ambitions of China ? Territory disputes with Japan Phipipines I ndia . Let China drop their claim on Indians land and only then would India and China be able to cooperate.
that land claim is old but look at how it will be solved. build the roads, develop prosperity and he business and people in the region will solve that issue by mutual self interest as quickly as the development sets in and prosperity results.
look at what is happening in Canada/USA...Canadian south north west USA..Ontario and Buffalo. these regions are more focused on each other business wise that they are focused on the rest of Canada USA. a whole region with its own interest and social connections are developing that if it continues will be very distinct from its surroundings in time, whose interest are concerned with itself more that it is with whatever immediately outside of if.
that is the way of life. the problem is how the classes over all control the societies. it is their opposed interest that have cut across the regional interest in survival the people re trying to grasp. far away in Beiging and Mumbai bureaucrats decide the life of those people at the edges who if they were left alone would coalesce in their own interest out there likely eradicating the border and living in peace trying to survive.
now if you go in there and build the basic of what they need..roads, train/transportation that makes the life and business they do easier you facilitate their efforts but leave them basically alone what the hell do you think would happen ::confused::
yes..any problem they would have would now be negotiated away. they have lives now they do not want to loose, opportunity to really get somewhere in life, educate themselves, their children etc. life becomes sweeter for everyone and the border erases. the real connections are between the people of the region not with Beiging/Mumbai... indian and chinese sub-continents away. it is Beiging/Mumbai making the problems on the borders from great distances away... not the people there
so China's solution is the best thing that could have happened...build roads through the region..ask India to join in which they have done... but India has refused so far..
build the infrastructure and work with the people on what that infrastructure now permits them to do in their own best collective interests. that brings huge profits for all concerned. but it leaves the people more free to develop their own lives..a thing ruling classes do not like
but nothing lasts forever. no ruling class has ever lasted for for more than a thousand years or so after the ancient Egyptians or 'Kemets'..[from the word Kemet which is the real name of Egypt..KEMET. ] the Chinese are not worried about revolution anymore apparently. they are worried about the Chinese nation in the face of western aggression..the same issue which by all historical experience should cause great worry in Mumbai..but for some fantastic reason apparently does not
so why do you want to fight Kwami..are you afraid of living and taking your chances in life?
you won't win the fight no matter what damage you create
take a look at the americans kwami. when the soviets collapsed wat did deh come out with. 'deh had won the historical game' deh said...they were the 'exceptional nation' deh said. they came out with PNAC...the project for a new american century.
Bush said 'if you are not with us you are against us' he also said he would not allow any other power to rise up that could challenge america.
Obama was the same way..even more destructive. yet look at america..almost defeated 16 years later..and all bush swore against has come to pass and america cud do nothing to stop it. and all the time america has been on the offensive..others in defense against her., but no one has attacked america and yet she is losing.
what are India's goals then..can they be achieved them in the world?
that's it man...you have your interest..you plan and go after them..you win some you lose some, go back and plan again to come forward..al the time. it is the way of life. you do not live in the world by yourself. no one is there to move out of the way for you.
that is what you do..live and take your chances as sharp and as sophisticated as you can on any and all days
what is this with India and fighting, siding with the developed west and friggin up everything you are part of in the world in the interest of the west?
India is making the entire developing world hate India/Indians..while China is not doing any dam thing of the kind
it is time for India to change man..to come into the world as regular ordinary people not superior people better than everyone else. Indians like Jews are superior to no one. there are no exceptional people or nations. all things must pass..it is only a matter of time
why..man, how?
look at Israel..Usa/srael... they were both cook ah hoop destroying Libya then attacking Syria etc. Israel had its eyes set on expanding into Syria from the Golan Heights. look at what has happened there..Russia is administering a zone of peace around the Golan, and Israel is totally checkmated. israel was bombing Syria... cant bomb anymore
so what you worried about. China is not going to invade india..what are you crazy ::confused::
what the hell for ::confused:: there is no profit in that only hell and expensive hell at that. you have to use your logic kwami. in the end its not the war or the genocide dat will get you but your straight naked ability to earn your keep in life to keep on living.
forget the bullets...if you have no food a bullet is unnecessary.
for the human species to survive all hegemons and systematic human exploitation must die...ALL! AND HUMAN SOCIETY IS PUTTING AN END TO THAT KIND OF THING AS WE SPEAK. humanity must have peace and democracy to survive, so that we can focus on the real questions of existence. humanity must have full employment in society focused on the perfecting of society itself..building up society. only such economic focus can provide full employment..not capitalism
a real question I think I have found goes like this: How does humanity survive ind3efinitely in an evolutionary universe. remember we cant shoot nature eh..so we cant get vex with and drop bombs on nature. so weaponry in a military sense cant and wont anser that question. human ingenuity in response to natural challenges could answer that question.
so what do we do them..develop infrastructure, build schools and spread real education, grow clean food and clean up the waters..understand how to eat to live and end diseases and extend life..the purpose is to learn and find out how humanity can survive indefinitely in evolutionary conditions. that's right.
that question is as large as it is wide, long and tall, beyond the capability of all humans alive right now to solve, even if all are developed, well fed and educated and focused on and working out the problem. so do we have a chance at survival if we do not know how to in existence..and how does the stupid issue between India and china look now in the face of this truth ::confused:: and that is not even the half of it
lissen! humanity is so stupid and backward at the moment as a result of capitalist social control,we are actually living on borrowed time. to get back on our time and pay off the debt of time we owe, the time debt we have run up, we must democratize society, end all the crap inequalities, racism etc and make a goo efficient democratic life focused on nature, answering the natural questions we face. all this s***tin focus on money will be the death of us