Someone Please Explain this to me re Egypt

I doan know wat yu mean ::

he better talk to his 'backer' Obama...smilin. in he face an stokin' rebellion behind he back

i am not sure what you dont understand Maps

the US helped to oust Mubarak in the name of 'democracy' and 'freedom'.

they put in Morsi under the guise of a 'real election'

why would the ppl put in someone who would then turn around and change the constitution so that he cannot be removed? Is that not a DICTATOR????

think about it.

The US, UN, UK and the rest of these govnt devils planned this - the good old 'divide and conquer' it never gets old. 

things were not good for the people of egypt under mubarak.  they fouht and removed him.  the usa had nutten to do with that.


the usa has been trying to insert itself and there is all kind of talk about of how the usa did this that and the other in the egyptian revolution.


but only now can the hand of the usa been seen fomenting this current trouble that has been going.  it has the potential for civil war that would render egypt a basket case.


who benefits from Egypt being a basket case..if not Israel.


if morsi and obama have a deal then israel does not care about that deal.  who  has fomented another spot of trouble that is forcing Morsi hand? 


the more violent morsi gets the better for israel.  they will probably send in armed provocation, if it is not al;ready in there,  worsen the situation, militarise it and destroy egypt from inside out..if the people foolish enough.


AN ORGANISED AND NATIONALISTIC EGPYT , INTELLECTUALLY UNDER RIGHT LEFT MIDDLE OR CENTRIST DOES NOT  MATTER...  SUCH A COORDINATED AND FUNCTIONING EGYPT, INDEPENDENT, DEVELOPING, IS ANATHEMA FOR ISRAEL. 


FOR israel EGYPT IS BEST EITHER NEUTRALISED UNDER A DICTATOR LIKE MUBARAK.. OR NEUTRALISED LIKE AND HELPLESS LIKE LIBYA AND IRAQ.


THAT IS THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE WARS IN THE MIDDLE EAST..TO LAY THE ARAB WORLD TO WASTE, SMASH IT, BREAK IT UP SO THAT THAT THERE WILL BE NO OPPOSITION TO THE JEWISH EMPIRE THAT INTEND TO RISE ON THE RUINS AND BONES OF THE ARAB PEOPLE AND THEIR WORLD


AND BY THE TIME AMERICA IS BROKEN FROM ALL THAT EXERTION FOR ISRAEL AMERICA ITSELF WOULD BE DONE, BROKEN, BANKRUPT, ENSLAVED AND DEPOPULATING, MOST AMERICANS SICK AND DYING, LEAVING ISRAEL JUST ABOUT THE SUPREME COUNTRY IN THE WORLD..HAVING TRANSFERRED ALL AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY AND WEALTH..AND DESTROYED ALL ITS ENEMIES WASTING OUT AMERICA IN THE PROCESS..DESTROYING IT AS EFFECTIVELY AS THE ARAB WAR HAS BEEN DESTROYED


I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DRINKING NARGIS BUT YOU MISSING THE POINT TOTALLY.


ONCE THE ARAB COUNTRIES ARE DESTROYED ALL THEY HAVE..OIL, GAS ETC WOULD BE FOR THE TAKING BY THE JEWS.


THEY ARE MAKING A GRAB FOR ALL..NARGIS..ABSOLUTELY ALL


and get your story on afghanistan straight.  you don't talk as if you know what went on there

i cannot believe mine own eyes that you believe the US had nothing to do with the overthrow of Mubarak.

you think those ppl just up and decided one day that they dont want that man in power?

as far as the Egyptians are concerned - right now - they were better off with Mubarak. 

the US interferred with: Iran and Iraq, Afghanistan and then Iraq again, Libya, soon to be Syria, and then Iran again.

ONCE THE ARAB COUNTRIES ARE DESTROYED ALL THEY HAVE..OIL, GAS ETC WOULD BE FOR THE TAKING BY THE JEWS.


yes we can both agree on that! but how pray tell do you think they are going to accomplish that????? but just hoping the ppl of those countries just up and decide to overthrow their donkey year existing governments??????

good lord

They were 15-20% of the population during the 1950s. Not now.


The Copt birth rate is around 50% lower than the national birth rate, and a lot of people are converting to Islam every year (conversion from Islam to Christianity is not possible).


Copts face a lot of discrimination, and the situation is really worse in the rural areas of Egypt. A lot of people (mostly the educated Copts) have immigrated. 

come on Nargis..life does not exist by guess.  the whole universe happens..and in its specific  way that we are a part of.  all we do as we live is find out what's going on in order to make life as secure as possible.


human society functions in its specific way relative the universal laws.  we came out of such lawful cause factors, became part of the process, becoming cause and effect as well as we have gone since we have been here.


Marxism refers to a science of sociology that has give human beings a major tool of analysis of life and society, of existence.  the philosophy 'existentialism' especially the work of one Martin Heidegger has made major contributions in areas where Marxism failed to help...


I say that to affirm that the rebellions you refer to..rebellion period do not happen like that.  they are the result of cause and effect like everything else....product of all the years of social development or evolution up to them.


the revolutionary process of human society displays the same qualities or factors of change in all processes..chemical/biological..all.  this must be the case Nargis NO MATTER WHAT!  this is how life goes.  and those at the top know it and by that knowledge, science, skill, on-going analylsis.. seek to foment, create, infiltrate and direct existing revolutionary situations for their own class benefit.


by that the very greatest practitioners of Marxism today are the elites themselves who have also invested the  scientific method in order to exploit it for their class benefit.  which is why that which is supposed to be 'good' functions with deleterious effect on the people.  like Government and all its agencies.


look around you and you will see that nothing that unctions does so consistent with its stated constitutional principles of existence.  all has been turned inside out yet maintains the same meaning  in principle ...is still lawful and constitutional. 


people go vote for example for the president and THEY KNOW THAT NEITHER OF THE CHOICES IS THEIR MAN AND WILL DO IN OFFICE ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT.


THEY KNOW THAT IN OFFICE ANY MAN..OR WOMAN WHO WINS,  WILL ACT FOR THE ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE AND THAT THAT IS PERFECTLY LEGAL... WHY IS WHY IT IS HAPPENING IN FRONT OF OUR FACES, WE GO VOTE AND IN SO DOING ACT AGAINST OURSELVES, OUR OWN BEST INTERESTS, YET SO FAR CANT HELP. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!


such a reality is a classic product of the many-died nature of dynamic reality in which opposites exists, are interdependent, could not exist without opposites.. and that one thing is another at the same time and whoever has the marts and power can make an existing principle for example function opposite to the purpose for which it was put in place..yet in principle the thing is not illegal at all.


it is all rather simple..not inconsistent with the principle embed in the Bible saying:  the devil comes at your in your own path.  the devil knows for example that any one word can mean several different but inter-related things.  so what did you put in place to do your business?


the devil does not change the structure the wording just corrupts and gains control of the structure by controlling the men and women who run it..then makes a simple basic change that flows everything to that he wants into him..with no discernable change in the outward process of life.


so banking is good as we all accept but it is not.  it can be a useful social function and we think it is but it is not.  food production is good isn't it..especially when science is added to max out production and make food availability secure.


we think all these things are good but the structure concentrates power at the top of what is a bureau..giving total control of the process all the way through to those at the top.  so that those at the top can literally make what they  want and those all the way through do not even know what they are making.  one CEO can determine to poison the food a corporation produces and no one but he would know until too late


but it is the existing process that we all love and believe to be right, convinced is right that allows for the devil to come at us in our own path and succeed in all the evil he does to us.


do the world functions in ways that are knowable and they are know by human beings.  if there is exploitation there are the exploited and resistance to the exploitation.  that is a revolutionary calculation.  the exploitation as a process is possible because of the content of social reality and the stage society is at. the technological stage is crucial and as technology advances the more likely, unavoidable, it makes social revolution.


and the greater the technological advance the more dangerous social life becomes for the greater the weaponry the more like total human immolation becomes.  the first application of technological advance is to weaponry to keep the people under control.  yet the technology destabilises the the established way of life calling forth new social classes to challenge the way things are done....


there are many more details Nargis but I trust you can see from this some idea of what's involved, the struggle..why it will go on and on and on but changing in quality all the way through.  that is the mode of social existence, the way it is, the principles under which life exists and functions.


what you imply is not possible.  you imply making a choice for all time. accepting a status quo for you think it was good for the people and they are fools to change it.


don't you realise that even if you stood up in the desert, naked, did absolutely nothing, did not move, even blink..that things would still change?