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19 Jun 2015 06:20 #260226
by chairman
Before their recent two-test series, West Indies chief selector Clive Lloyd said he wanted his young players to gain "exposure" and be "tested" against Australia.
"Our aim is to continue to play our young players to give them exposure, and you can't get better exposure than playing against one of the best teams in the world," he said. "They will be tested and that is what it's all about."
Lloyd's wish was granted. His young players were certainly exposed and tested. Unfortunately, most of his batsmen were found to be wanting against a strong Australian bowling line-up that turned the series into a rout.
Australia did not enter the series with a good road record. They were a miserable 2-2-10 in their previous 14 away tests, but what better place to improve those numbers than the Caribbean?
It is no secret that West Indies cricket has fallen on hard times, and the sight of sparse crowds watching a hopelessly outclassed home team was just the latest reminder of how far Caribbean cricket has fallen from the halcyon days when they were the most feared team in the world.
Of the young batsmen inexperienced at test level who played against Australia, none exactly passed the test given by Lloyd.
Test debutant Shane Dowrich did not really fail, though he did not come through with flying colours either. The 23 year old from Barbados scored 102 runs in four innings at an average of 25.5.
Jermaine Blackwood, a 23-year-old Jamaican, made 65 runs at an average of 16.25, nearly all his runs scored in one innings of 51.
His scores were particularly disappointing, coming after an impressive series in the previous three tests against England.
Meanwhile, 21-year-old Shai Hope, coming off a disappointing test debut against England, managed only 80 runs at an average of 20.
Experienced opener Kraigg Brathwaite was no better, scoring just 29 runs in four innings.
And Darren Bravo averaged just 12.25 for the series, not once reaching even 20.
Then there is Rajendra Chandrika, who made just about the worst imaginable test debut when he scored a dreaded pair, lasting just nine balls at the crease.
Many of the West Indies dismissals were due to poor decision-making, such as taking unnecessary chances trying to hit balls that were sailing harmlessly wide of off stump.
West Indies batsmen will face the fire again when they meet Australia, this time in Australia, in a three-test series over the Christmas period.
By then, it should be clear whether Lloyd's strategy to discard 40-year-old veteran Shivnarine Chanderpaul and focus on youth is starting to pay dividends, or whether it will be back to the drawing board.
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19 Jun 2015 09:39 #260230
by TRINIDADDY
Kids these days...always exposing themselves to strangers.
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19 Jun 2015 09:41 #260232
by boquiesse
Is this a new youth policy?
The only player replaced by a younger player is Chanderpaul.
The rest of the players were there during the English series.
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19 Jun 2015 14:42 #260252
by mapoui
deh were exposed by LLoyd...they cud not help themselves. deh shud arrest Lloyd.
seriously..TD! I suspect you are in total opposition to my opinion on Lloyd. but why..without giving cause..or at least expansive, good enuff cause ::confused::
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19 Jun 2015 17:07 #260288
by TRINIDADDY
I think Lloyd did the logical thing.
I would have done everything Lloyd did for the Aussie tour, except I would have dropped Ramdin and kept Shiv, or dropped both of them.
Lloyd has no choice. He has to pick the best youths and hope they get a reality check and toughen up fast, and he has to hope the domestic circuit keeps getting better so that the WIndies have better players in 2-3 years time.
Lloyd hoped Samuels, Paint, Ramdin and Bravo would offer some resistance. These guys have experience. They should give you 200 runs between them. They failed. Selecting Shiv to cover for these 4 men is rediculous. Better to let the supposed "seniors" look like fools. Let them be embarassed.
Lloyd needed an opener and was tired of Devon Smith. Chandrika's the only other guy who always opens domestically, and this year Chandrika gave you a 50 in almost every game. Lloyd took a gamble and Chandrika failed.
Dowrich, Hope and Blackwood all also had to be picked. All failed. Lloyd wasn't wrong in picking them. West Indian cricketers not being able to bat isn't the selector's fault.
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19 Jun 2015 17:12 #260289
by ketchim
TD , sometimes I wish the Trini in you stays suppressed :-[
The only measure of Success for Selectors IS the performance of the men they Select !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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19 Jun 2015 17:23 #260291
by TRINIDADDY
My point is, as a selector you select the best domestic batsmen. Lloyd has done that. He's done the correct thing.
That these guys can't really bat at the international level isn't his fault.
Marlon Samuels and Darren Bravo are our number 3 and 4. These are our key batsmen. Both have terrible technique. They cannot bat. But you have to select them as your number 3 and 4 because they are the best we have.
Even Gayle can't bat. The man averages 40 in tests in an era that is a paradise for batsmen.
So if all West Indian batsmen can't bat, internationally and domestically, you have no choice but to pick the best of the incompetents.
Other than Shiv, when was the last time you saw a WI batsmen who looked like he had great enough technique for international test cricket? To my eye, only Sarwan, Paint, Holder and Dowrich. The rest have big flaws in their technique, and in Blackwood's case, in his brain. It's not like Lloyd is leaving out hot-shot players and so damaging the team.
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19 Jun 2015 17:27 #260292
by ketchim
False ! he did Not : he should know you must have a veteran's mix
Keep Shiv, add Deonarine (proven against the Oz) and Badree for Permaul ; and then the Youths,.
The result would not have been as Traumatic...
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19 Jun 2015 17:30 #260293
by boquiesse
And that's it in a nutshell. Whatever team was put out there would have got licks.
Now is the time for the WICB to renegotiate the Oz tour. The WICB should tell Oz to give NZ 2 of the WI tests. Let the WI play one test in whatever venue has the best batting conditions.
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