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I Believe That Westernization of Africa and the Middle East is Inevitable

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25 Oct 2014 14:21 #220170 by mapoui

I was going to anser the "what is insanity" part when I saw this above here. ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL:: ::LOL::

now I see!  this is comedy central..or candid camera.  we supposed to be posting jokes here.  Patti Skake jess post the sweetest joke I have seen here for the week..indeed 2-3 weeks.

its all in the fun eh!  I see.
oh well. Sarah Palin has company here.  she shud visit this board ::)

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25 Oct 2014 14:22 #220171 by mapoui
anyhow I have plumb run out of jokes :-[ :-[ :-[

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25 Oct 2014 14:26 #220172 by pattycake

But you've apparently have not run out of bullshit. ::LOL::

So much for your claim of America being mental illness.

You can't present a single example of your claim.  ::LOL::

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25 Oct 2014 14:40 - 25 Oct 2014 14:46 #220174 by pattycake


Okay?

Now who was it that bought the slaves? The WEST. Correct? Which was western support of Africa even back then. And when the west pulled out of the slave trade they whined and fell to pieces. They have no more market for profitable human trafficking but they still carry on with the practice today.
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25 Oct 2014 14:56 - 25 Oct 2014 15:07 #220176 by pattycake



Okay?


This was done to black African children by hello... BLACK AFRICANS!

And it's still happening to black African children today!

And religion and foreign aid is used to keep it going.
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25 Oct 2014 15:15 - 25 Oct 2014 16:01 #220179 by pattycake
Map,


You and Kwami are in denial and only want a direction to point your finger. Y'all refuse to look upon the situation as it is. You create dramatics in your egotistic imagination of the white man being the culprit when the white man in fact helped you by using you and then setting you free to be yourself and do what you want with your life. Which is a freedom that many Africans still do not have today.


Look around you... What do you see?


You see Africans fleeing Africa and looking to live somewhere in the West. Many over there committing suicide daily because of the intense oppression many see no way out of. Oppression inflicted upon them by BLACK AFRICANS. They try to flee to Israel and Israel don't want them. You don't live in Africa and just shooting off your mouth in pride. You need to talk to Francis Bok and read his book: Escape From Slavery. He's presently a free man living in Connecticut, and was a stolen child and forced into slavery. You need to gain some facts on what's going on over there instead of going by your delusions of grandeur that the white man destroyed. Meet Francis Bok, look him in the eye, and then tell him that the white man is his enemy and America is mental illness. He might haul off and whoop your ass.
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25 Oct 2014 16:15 #220184 by mapoui
you are not a serious poster on this issue pattocoke......I can use you, based on your commentary here as an example of insanity yuhself.
the things you say...pheeeeew!

but based on that then there is no need for me to continue with you. maybe on another issue but not on this one. on this issue you are out to lunch

time to move on!

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25 Oct 2014 17:02 - 25 Oct 2014 17:08 #220189 by pattycake

This is my thread not yours.  ::LOL::

That you tried to derail and failed to present an example of your own claim.  ::LOL::

Tata.  ::LOL::

YOU WOULDN'T LAST A WEEK IN AFRICA.   ::LOL::

And that's the double truth Ruth.  ::LOL::
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25 Oct 2014 20:31 - 25 Oct 2014 20:40 #220202 by TRINIDADDY
"The de facto role of the United States Armed Forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing." - Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters

"The weaker and poorer a country is, the more dangerous it is as an example. If Grenada can succeed in bringing about a better life for its people, some other place that has more resources will eventually ask, 'why not us?'" - Chomsky

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The "Westernization" of the world should not be celebrated, and you guys looking at history in a very superficial way.

Remember, Africa and the Middle East were run by local monarchs and local tribal leaders. This was a brutal form of feudalism.

Africa and the Middle East were then conquered by the bigger Empires. Henceforth, they were ruined by French, British, Dutch, Belgian, American etc Imperialism. These Empires used (and continue to use) divide and conquer tactics, supported brutal monarchs, dictators, terrorist groups and deliberately fostered divisions along ethnic and religious lines. In places like Rwanda, they even arbitrarily created "races" along financial lines (the "middle class" Tutsi pitted against the "lower class" Hutu, even though both belong to the same "tribe"). Any Middle Eastern or African leader who attempted to help the people or fend off exploitation was/is assassinated/couped and replaced with someone more brutal.

So the turmoil and backwardness these countries are in today is a direct result of "Westernization". This "Westernization" deliberately destroyed democratic and progressive movements whilst financing, arming and supporting psycho religious movements, psycho reactionary movements and psycho political movements. This process is still going on. Look at who is the chief supporter of crazy theocratic regimes (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain etc) in the Middle East, as well as who is the chief supporter and creator of crazy extremist groups. It's the "West" which wants barbarism, destabalization and primitivism. Had these countries been left alone, they would be more "civilized".

The "West" itself would have this barbarism in its own backyard were it not for the blood spilt by many activists, freedom fighters and dissidents over the centuries.

Of course every sensible person today knows that the "West" is plundering the Middle East and Africa and is directly responsible for some of the more barbaric religious and social customs still practised in these nations. 99 percent of the nutty movements in Africa and the Mid East (Al Shabbas, Muslim Brotherhood, Isis, Alqueda) were directly caused by the West. Places like Afganistan were secular, progressive and with liberal women's rights back in the 1950s and 60s, until the West set it back 200 years.

But "the West" wants barbarism ONLY up until a certain point.

A good example is Ukraine. The West (CIA, IMF and World Bank) recently couped Ukraine with the help of local neo nazi and terrorist groups (Right Sector and Svoboda). It then put these psycho puppet groups in power, turning the Ukrainian government over to them. This is a common tactic. Historically, the West supports such barbaric groups because such tactics allows the West to conquer nations by proxy. Once they have conquered the nation, they then kick out the crazy puppet groups and put in their own "civilized" guys (usually bankers). These "new guys" then nudge the conquered country toward neoliberal capitalism.

Another good example is Saddam Hussein, a CIA asset in his 20s, who was used by the West to destroy local democratic movements in Iraq and destroy local unions and socialists. Hitler was backed until 1938 for similar reasons. In both cases, the West were unable to kick out their puppet and put in their own guys. Instead, the puppets went rogue.

Israel does the same thing. Israel funded, armed and practically created Hamas in the 1980s to kill the PLO. Hamas, in those days, was a psycho Islamist group and the PLO were a moderate, progressive group. Today Hamas is moderate and internationally recognised and Israel is arming even more nutty guys to destroy Hamas. Someone like Pattycake will blame "muslims" for Palestine being "primitive" and "praise" the "benevolent Westernization of Israelis". A serious person, however, will call this superficial thinking. Worse, this kind of thinking propogates problems.

But the point is, Africa and the Mid East will be plundered by the West via gangster tactics for as long as they can get away with it. The West will then replace their gangster puppets with "new", "civilized" puppets. Some of these replacements will go smoothly, some will backfire. Regardless, eventually all of these countries will be forced to implement and adopt neoliberal, "free market" reforms. Why? Because whilst capitalism loves old school slavery and exploitation, capitalism ultimately must expand or die.  Like a Ponzi scheme, it must constantly seek out new markets, a new customer base, and an always expanding populace, for reasons too complicated to get into at this moment.

Suffice to say that Africa and the Mid East will be westernized and fools will blindly "praise" the West for their "altruism". Once every inch of the planet is in the grip of "modern", "enlightened" capitalism, then people will start asking bigger questions. Namely, why's everyone in debt, poor, overworked, why is unemployment high and why are poverty rates and inequality inexorably increasing.

No doubt future humans will find some other scapegoat, rather than question the system itself.

"was watching the movie Blackhawk Down where a Somali warlord said to a captured US soldier: "

That film was such war porn. It's a big ole racist film which completely ignores why Somalia is so backward, the Western support of dictators like Siad Barre and the West's deliberate pushing of Somalia and Ethiopia into war (by tactically arming and pushing one vs the other, and then vice versa years later).
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25 Oct 2014 23:18 #220204 by Kwami
pattacake ... earlier I used words like spectacularly  uniformed and naive to describe you  but now I take it all back , I  was trying to be polite
I now conclude that  you  are  just plain stupid , willfully ignorant  or insane

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