What a Bunch of Nice Guys...

The saga continues  :'(

He's a professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago and founder of the Chicago Project on Security and Terrorism (CPOST).

Segment from wikipedia:

"...rejects the view that the root of the problem is in Islam (241-44). Rather, the taproot is American military policy" (244). The notion that Islamic fundamentalism is bent on world domination is "pure fantasy" (244-45). An attempt by the West to force Muslim societies to transform "is likely to dramatically increase the threat we face" (245)."

War is a universal force with an impetus of it's own.

So I doubt that the US invented the Taliban.

Formerly the Mujahideens , financed and trained by the USA to fight Russia Army :

including Osama bin Laden ( see Live fight in video above)

now operating as Taliban...

Training and invention are two different things.

What a nihilistic and nonsensical thing to say. War is not a "universal force" nor does it have a "impetus of its own". War does not create itself. It is conjured up by men for specific means, usually involving the capture of land and resouces.

In the case of the Afghanistan, the US could not legally invade so they created a proxy army; the Taliban. This is what big countries do. Repeatedly. And so the US invented the Taliban, they provided leadership advice, tactical advice, training, money, weapons, told them what to do, how to think, where to strike, told them they would be given full political control of the nation, flew in soldiers from Europe, Asia and Africa to join them and, in the space of a decade, turned something which did not exist into something which did.

Go watch action cinema in the 1980s. The Taliban were consistently celebrated. You had guys like Sylvester Stallone, James Bond, Churck Norris and stuff worshiping them and fighting alongside them. Go read about Bosnia and Yugoslavia and how similar fake "religious conflicts" were stirred up to Balkanise (ie split up) Yugoslavia. In those cases, the West sided with muslims against "Christian terrorists" who were mostly imaginary.

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Here's an interview by Zbigniew Brzezinski, an evil dude and the infamous US strategist who helped create the Taliban. In this interview, he's asked if he regrets forming the group:

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea! The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war!

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic insurgents, having given arms and advice?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? Some stirred-up Moslems or the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense! That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

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These guys don't care about muslims or terrorists. They've got zillion dollar armies at their disposals. A couple thousand muslims with outdated weapons are just pawns to them. And they get away with using these pawns because of the kind of wishy washy emotionalism you see written on threads like this. ("War is its own impetus?" "Muslims want to take over the world!"? what the hell?)

Ironically, nobody cares when the CIA created Christian/Catholic-right terrorist groups like in Latin America or with the Guatemalan genocide. Nah, it's muslims you're scared of. Cos they got beards, beady eyes and living on our oil!

Even more hypocritical is the fact that most of the Taliban's money is coming from the Western nations that supposedly hate them.

Here's investigative journalist Jean MacKenzie:

"The manager of Afghan firms with lucrative construction contracts with the U.S. government builds in a minimum of 20 percent for the Taliban in his cost estimates. The manage states that he makes in the neighborhood of $1 million per month. Out of this, $200,000 is siphoned off for the insurgents. The degree of cooperation and coordination between the Taliban and US aid workers is surprising, and would most likely make funders extremely uncomfortable."

Here's Dr Stuart Bramhall, touching upon other billion dollar business deals made with the Taliban:

"It’s extremely ironic for the US State Department to be issuing travel alerts for US citizens in the Middle East and North Africa the same week we learn that the Pentagon is contracting with Al Qaeda and the Taliban to carry out Afghan reconstruction projects. 

Tony Capaccio of Bloomberg News cites a quarterly report to Congress by Special Inspector for Afghan Reconstruction John Sopko.The report reveals Sopko asked the US Army Suspension and Disbarment office to cancel 43 contracts to known Al Qaeda and Taliban supporters. They refused. The reason? The Suspension and Disbarment Office claims it would violate Al Qaeda and Taliban “due process rights.”

Curious, isn’t it? Official terrorist groups have due process rights, but not whistleblowers, Guantanamo detainees, or ordinary Americans subject to continual surveillance by NSA.

This about that for a moment: the Pentagon is giving Al Qaeda and the Taliban funding, even though Al Qaeda and the Taliban are planning to carry out attacks on US citizens. How can this be happening? It would appear the US government is at war with their own people."
 


Here's Huffington post political analyst Michael Hughes:

"The U.S. has been financing both sides of the war in Afghanistan since 2001 as a startling percentage of foreign aid continues to flood Taliban coffers on a daily basis.

Some experts have estimated that close to $1 billion a year of foreign assistance has fallen into the hands of the enemy as a result of counterinsurgency programs and ill-devised USAID projects."

And of course Afghanistan has the world's largest poppy fields and so is the world's largest supplier of opium. 90 percent of all opium comes from Afghanistan...






...a drug trade which the US allows, profits off of, and which funds the Taliban and Afghan government.


Here's Michel Chossudovsky:

"Implemented in 2000-2001, the Taliban’s drug eradication program led to a 94 percent decline in opium cultivation. In 2001, according to UN figures, opium production had fallen to 185 tons. Immediately following the October 2001 US led invasion, production increased dramatically, regaining its historical levels. 

Cultivation in 2006 reached a record 165,000 hectares compared with 104,000 in 2005 and 7,606 in 2001 under the Taliban (See table below). 

Based on current figures, drug trafficking  constitutes “the third biggest global commodity in cash terms after oil and the arms trade.” (The Independent, 29 February 2004). Afghanistan and Colombia are the largest drug producing economies in the world, which feed a flourishing criminal economy. These countries are heavily militarized. Amply documented, the CIA has played a central role in the development of both the Latin American and Afghan drug triangles."

Yep.

It sure does.

War is a part of the earth's self cleaning system.

The planet cleans itself because it has to be cleared of all excess waste and that waste recycled, and backwards human behavior are a part of that system because it's waste that accumulates, and backwards people destroy and kill themselves off. There's no real excuse for war ever. The truth is that people fight because they're angry and bored. They just need to create an excuse to justify their actions. But there is no real reason, and they knock each other off in the earth's self cleaning system. So war is a necessary part of backwards living.

Backwards people are incredibly arrogant and egotistic and think that the world revolves around them, but little do they realize what waste they are in the eyes of the universe, that has to be disposed of. They multiply like roaches and arrogantly live backwards. They'll do it themselves. No questions asked.  Because the planet cleans itself.

Just think about the war all around us. Every gang and syndicate does what? Kill each other off. Correct? The mean streets in every city do what? Kill each other off correct? Simply put, tribalism in every form does what? Kill each other off. Correct?

Think for a moment about Vietnam... Hmmm? What was it? Simply an area in a jungle to fight. There was no reason for the setup besides a place to fight. i spoke personally to several Vietnam vets all of whom told me the same thing, that there was no known reason for that war and America wasn't trying to win it. They were just sending troops there, mostly young pissed off or bored males who didn't want to go to college, to fight. There was no reason ever given for that war.

The planet cleans itself and war is a major part of it.

You think that people can just multiply like roaches, lived pissed off and bored, and live happily ever after? Think again. They're surplus waste that have to be eliminated, and many will eliminate themselves in one way or another. Waste cannot accumulate on this planet without disposal.

What do you think those men are meeting at the Whitehouse for?

To discuss the elimination of and other usage of human waste.

pattycake , open a different thread  ::LOL::

No such thing as a moderate Muslim. They are either calm and practice their religion or are fanatics that kill and bomb all over the world. No surprise either that ketchim and trini are the ones trying to justify the killing of children. Trini"mama" I am beginning to see a repeated pattern to your arguing style. It actually makes me laugh as you try to draw up a connection the US creating the Taliban and completely ignoring who held the guns when shooting these kids. Once again simple facts allude you and you try to throw in textbook gibberish to dilute a simple fact.. fanatic Muslims killing children. If your father was Indian then he must have been Muslim. Only Muslims justify what other Muslims do..no matter how sick or debased it is. Maintaining the "brotherhood" is more important than protecting women and children. You and your friend ketchim may have been born Muslim (or you may have been converted) and if you were born Muslim then your daddy or granddaddy was brainwashed into becoming one. Muslims brainwash US American born whites to join their cause and spread blood all over the world so what chance do uneducated Indians, blacks , whites , asians around the world have when Islam comes to brainwash them.

Bhupinder done with you : any anal soreness  >