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27 Oct 2015 17:14 #276306 by mapoui

I heard that....but I heard empire  will not be or cannot be an empire like the USA/Britain etc due to its lack of internal development/great structural poverty.

that seems wrong to me.  China does not want to be an empire seems more apt..the centre of the world...so far.

he talks about movement towards diversity yet he seems to suggest that the world needs an imperial centre

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27 Oct 2015 17:46 #276314 by ketchim
Chinese officials have condemned a US ship's passage near disputed islands in the South China Sea as "illegal"

and a threat to their country's sovereignty.

The guided-missile destroyer USS Lassen breached the 12-nautical mile zone China claims around Subi

and Mischief reefs in the Spratly archipelago.

The US has confirmed the operation took place, apparently as part of its Freedom of Navigation programme.


stay tuned  ;)

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27 Oct 2015 22:04 #276316 by mapoui
neo con insanity!

that is the reason why Putin has gone out of his way to leave one of 4 corners open for the americans to slip away with good excuse..don't block them all.  Putin is trying to save the planet...to carry this thing until american power dissolves peacefully and internally america changes from imperial to a regular nation again.

don't you realize that Russia has developed a military advantage over the americans..and China too. no doubt america can still a do a lot of damage.  but when Putin fired those missiles from the Caspian he was warning the americans, that whatever advantage they thought they had is a mirage.  and that is why america has moved all its aircraft carriers out of the way.

that is what Chompsky explained...american decline.

Chompsky also explained that it is also planned and exploited by and for the 1& and most particularly for a tenth of the 1%.  they do not care.  they have morphed into monsters and in doing so they have destroyed in american the very ability ti maintain the imperium that Chompsky says the rest do not have to make an empire, as america declines

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27 Oct 2015 22:09 #276317 by mapoui
I know India would like to be an empire to take over the world.  that could quite well be a huge future problem for the world.

but Russia and China not interested. they have learned the lesson of history and working toward multi polarity assiduously.  that is what I think Chompsky has missed in his bleak prognosis for humanity.  there is one way out Putins/China's way..but not India's way. the Hindu is a conqueror and suffused with his own sense of exceptionalism, just like the Jews

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28 Oct 2015 10:01 #276326 by SCA
the Hindu is a conqueror and suffused with his own sense of exceptionalism, just like the Jews

Maps, your topic seem well intentioned...however can you clarify:

Who the Hindu conquered?

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28 Oct 2015 10:33 - 28 Oct 2015 10:58 #276328 by mapoui

good question but we are focused by that point of mine on a future I suggest society should try to avoid by recognizing its current potential. it is suggested by the current developing frame of Hindu movement and sense of exceptionalism, Hindu identification with white western movement in the world and extreme Hindu wannabe behavior relative to the whites.

Hindus do not choose Indian ways, an Indian way in which is embedded in a positive view of the world that enervates Hindus globally to live in cooperation and peace but in extractive relationships that is for Hindus only.  The Global NRI program is one such that has married Hindus globally to Indian exceptionalism which is an elitist program for only the Indian elites really benefit from that.  the NRI program leads Hindus to neglect the interest of national entities they are all part or else pay only lip service to it

the NRI program is a form of colonization and conquest for Hindus take over the national entities they are part of globally, and force the national entity into line with Indian interests,  not the various nationalist interests.  there are growing Hindu communities all over the world.  as far as I can determine that is their program, to rise and/or influence or take over purely in Hindu interest, not the various national interest they are part of.

that can be very problematic, for as Hindus rise they become involved in the innards of nations, know the nation inside out, occupy very important positions. and if their secret policy is Hindu and not national that is a major problem for the nation.

and in this manner Hindu international power has grown significant in the world, so that if a secondary nation is arbitrarily infiltrated in this way and the people react to Hindu domination, international pressure can be organized brought on them to permit such take over as happened in Java some years ago...and as in Uganda where global Indian pressure  forced Uganda to compensate the Indians chased out by Idi Amin!

all of that is conquest.  there are many forms of conquest and Hindus practice their share, their intent clear.
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28 Oct 2015 10:52 - 28 Oct 2015 11:12 #276330 by mapoui
in Africa Hindus went in, were taken in, brought in... and everywhere they have identified totally with white western movement in Africa.  I mean totally, flawlessly, not a fraction of air between Indo and western exploitation of Africa and the horrific western means used to facilitate such exploitation.

In Canada I watch Hindus all the time precipitated by such experience.  the relationship between myself and Hindus is and has not been without its positives. but I have seen and experienced in relationships where Hindus precipitate negative flows, then rush and call the police in the full expectation that the cops would railroad me unfairly giving them the benefit. 

I have seen Hindus in full and total identification with the police actively seeking information, or else being close to situations due to their greater proximity to Blacks, to inform on Black people, at times openly and in our faces, don't care about us at all or how we feel..  tell the cops what they know regardless of the fairness, or lack of it in the situation

from all I see despite the good positive parts of my experience with Hindus,  Hindus have no use for Black people and are not concerned whether we survive or not.  in fact they evince or appear to think it is in their interest if Africans/Black people do not survive at all.

then again Hindu nationalist movement in the world suggests an expanding vicious conquering capitalist movement in the very oldest  traditional sense,  of Britain and its rise to world domination for example. the Hindu elites leave the vast majority of the people of India ..especially Sudra...hungry and suffering in a mad sense while they build navy, air force, nuclear weapon after nuclear weapon.  for what purpose save conquest ::confused::

I say in the case of India, nuclear deterrent is prolly necessary..but not the development I see.  the development I see is offensive,for attack not defense

and the Hindu seeks no resolution with Pakistan for the long term enmity between the nations/peoples.  resolution ought to be the first priority for both sides but neither seeks resolution.India, the apparent stronger side ought to lead in this direction.  India does not. India does not care.  the indian elite  is drunk with its seeming power, wealth and americanized wannabe glitter

all of that is the danger..the desire of the Hindu elite to dominate..and the expression of that in the Hindu people all the way down who support and pursue the NRI global program.  there is a major clash down the road because of all that..with Pakistan of course but with China too..a clash that the Hindus will not win.

MAD for sure is the outcome of that.  but Hindu movement does not suggest that Hindus can see their way clear to initiate or participate in resolution of those those terminal differences.  they think they will win.
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28 Oct 2015 12:13 #276340 by ketchim
Berbicians are POIs  not NRIs   

Goog Lee is in charge of the USA chapter


update yuh language , Maps  ;)

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28 Oct 2015 12:17 - 28 Oct 2015 12:26 #276341 by mapoui
are they....in spirit and letter ::confused::

just look at the ICC.  the Indian cricket elites took over with their great flow of cricket wealth and look at what happened, what they did immediately :( :( :( . they walked straight back into the pages of english cricket history, even past when there were players and gentlemen, in rigid and prejudiced english class structure that separated players totally, based on class and ethnicity. 

the Indians have re-introduced tier-ed separation in international cricket, a rigid class structure, leaving the  the 'lesser' nations to depend on begging and hand out from the big 3, who now monopolize the lions share of the wealth in the game.

that is the kind of initiative I see flowing from the Hindus globally, elitist class based initiative of a bad tempered quality focused, on maximum exploitation and monopoly that leaves everyone on the outside, gasping for air.

the Hindu society is not driven my thoughts of democracy and fair play, global developments like multi-polarity and non interference and independence of nations.  Conquest, accumulation, domination is what I see flowing from New Delhi.

there was a time when this was so for the Hindu society..when Nehru was in charge following independence.  Non-Alignment was the way of that day. but with the appearance of western Neo liberalism capitalism the Hindu took to that like a duck to water.  the Hindu is prolly currently the greatest exponents of western economic Neo Liberalism, greater themselves, than the originators of that economic social horror

mind you the ideas of human progress is not non existent in Hindu life.  there is Indian opposition to the neo liberal horror. there are  left political movements and even insurgencies.  and there is a board or raft of Indian artists, writers etc who express the best in human concerns, actions,progress etc., on this day.  but to me for sure the general movement of Hindu is very troubling as I have stated above. India as america needs a leftward revolution,  or deep social reform in the very worst way at this very time and date
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28 Oct 2015 12:18 #276342 by mapoui
POI......an update...

what is POI ::confused::  translate

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