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15 Oct 2016 10:13 #324127
by TRINIDADDY
Yeah, I agree. The picture is a good history lesson.
But Ketchim is a sneaky Guyanese. He only posted that picture to rile up Ramesh. But Ramesh is a smart Guyanese too. He started this thread to rile up Ketchim.
I think blaming muslims for pushing Europeans into America is wrong. It's the equivalent of saying that Europeans had to commit genocides, all because muslim Kings wouldn't let them engage in free trade.
In other words, the brown man made them do it. The European colonialists didn't want to, but were forced to due to economic reasons imposed upon their poor bodies by evil muslims. The alternative to free trade is barbarism and war! Why you do this to us, muslims!? Why you don't let us obey the laws of the market!?
And this is the same logic that has the Western world "opening up markets" in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan today. It's the same twisted rationale. For those in power, the alternative to the market and trade on their terms, is absolute devastation. And it's never their fault. It's always the victim's fault for "making them act this way."
And let's not glamorise the Silk Route. We have thousands of slaves in India making silk today. In ancient times, in China, it was worse. It was peasants and the poor being forced to make goods for the Europeans. It wasn't a "good thing" which was shut down.
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15 Oct 2016 10:38 #324131
by TRINIDADDY
Sounds like the old Marxist slogan: Race is a Social Construct!
It was intended to unite all religions and races against land owners.
Now the phrase mostly drives people, especially in America, crazy. The problem's with the world are due to the DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE RACES, many believe, and these problems would be avoided if EVERY RACE ACTED MORE WHITE and CHRISTIAN (And if you can't act this way, GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!).
And their idea of "whiteness" is always some idyllic, fantastical, 1950s version of Americana. A point in time, ironically, when 80 percent of the nation was in some kind of workers union.
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15 Oct 2016 11:33 #324142
by mapoui
to be proper we have to re-phrase rameshs by-line. it is not to blame Muslims for that development.
I don't see history as an activity to find blame but o detck what happened, to help us explain how things actually go to helps us streamline our own current behavior hopefully in the positive
division and schism in islam of the day gave the christians opportunity to drive out the moors. the christians used their new domination to facilitate sea navigation which led to european expansion into the world...
in the process like all history we can see cause and effect, economic/class interest etc.
as you said ramesh started the thread to rib ketchim..which is the way my own contributions were slanted originally..to terrorize ketchim.
but the way I actually see the issues..indeed all historical issues to not nearly at all the blame game
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15 Oct 2016 11:40 #324143
by ketchim
spot on bro ! my family telling me now Trump and Hilary airing dirty laundry
has shattered that image : around the World.
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15 Oct 2016 12:00 - 15 Oct 2016 12:07 #324146
by mapoui
..among the bline and mypoic.
dat was/is waht has always been shocking to me...not the picture above but how people who were and are thoroughly raped by the west/america can still think of it as 'good'
amazing
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15 Oct 2016 18:56 #324166
by mapoui
I don't understand...modern white racism is creative divide and rule for the purpose of control of majorities to facilitate their exploitation.
that is what Allen did..researched to present and solid basis to fight white western racism.
allen's work included marxist method. but by all measurements it is regarded as a great contribution
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16 Oct 2016 00:22 #324171
by ramesh
Then let us concede that Trinadady is very intelligent and highly educated. I will also grant that Ketchem is also highly educated . Trinadady suggested that I AM SMART and so lets extrapolate . You suggested that I am a jackass which implies thathat my appendage is as large as that of a jackass , my smartness has already has been established by Trinadidy
Let us now take you . TRrinadidy implied that you are sneaky and I know that 4 women dumped you and so what do we have.
ME... large appendage and smart
You... sneaky as stated by Trinadady and small appendage because 4 women dumped you
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