Do We Know What Evil Is?

Evil is simply the absence of good....both are relative. If you ask the people who killed the 125 school children in Pak-land today, they will tell you that what they did was just, in the name of god/religion/hate/revenge whatever.

And if you ask the grieving relatives they will tell you that those people are the epitome of evil.

But eveil begets evil, and good begets goodness.

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i'm a teacher of higher truths. And I'm trying to teach y'all something about life.

Now what is it that you understand about light?

Okay,

So your take on it is that evil is a matter of perception?

If that's what you mean, then you're getting warm. 

well you are wasting time Pattacake..teach away and stop trying to set us up for what you have to say or teach....
the direct approach is better...

The direct approach is repelled by those who are unreceptive to it. I'm not trying to set anybody up Map. I'm trying to find out what y'all perceive.

well when I use light and dark is figurative

but to me cause and effect is all.  I don't see good and bad but efficacious or in-efficacious.  I see humans can be les and less wrong as we move forward..the more we know and perfect our instrumentation to help us figure things out.  I see social evolution as a function of technological advance.  we are driven not by the need to find out but to survive.  driven to survive finding out (SCIENCE) helps to survive because we turn what we know into technology and technology comes back to revolutionize social relations and on and on we go

evil-devil-good god was not a factor of human consciousness from the start.  first we came to see all bigger than us as god.  all were more powerful than little skrunting humanity.  human was small, little things that eventually grew.  whose place we took but Dino who prolly dies out due to shit in earths orbit that changed the gravitational balance of the earth and made Dino too heavy to survive.  in the space humanity began to thrive..eventually populating the planet

the people in Africa developed speech from mime and dance as the first forms of communication.  they began looking at the sky for a hundred thousand years giving us our time cycles.  it is from these time cycles - Astronomy and the stories they built up to explain them-Astrology we get our religions from, in an almost straight evolutionary path.  the religions were sincere to start with but manipulations subsequently.

why manipulations?  look to social relations and social divisions for explanation.  the kings wanted to control the people.  at first they saw religion as an enemy that would liberate the people from kingly control.  then they saw the people could be control of the content of their belief could be manipulated.  so they manipulated religious doctrinal content to suit kingly control and adopted it, made them legal with the king as centre.  which is why god is always a king living in what is a replica of an earthly kingdom, along with a hierarchy of people who constitute god's bureaucracy or civil service, replete with prime minister or president and cabinet and so on.

then the doctrinal development with the good/bad dichotomy.. based on the ancient Egyptian figures of Horus, Isis and Set evolving constantly into trios all along the way....

I say this.. not to well..but try clarify what I mean....that if this very questions was asked lets say 50 thousand years ago I don't see how would have any meaning for no one would have had any conception of evil or good.  so evil is pretty new in human terms, in history, as a concept in human minds.  and as I look at life I can associate evil only with religious ideology.  it has to do with religious ideas and stories, religious content, life by faith and not by sight.  all of that is vapor, thin air. 

the truth is relative to physical life the earth and all in it, universal conditions of existence.  there is nothing metaphysical it is either real,material,ultimately provable..or it does not exist..is belief purely.  the universe is a process that works and we must at least know enough about it that would allows us, give us the facility to survive indefinitely.  to so we must have the techniques to make use of whatever we find in nature to solve any and all challenges we have to meet as a species.

as process the universe and our world is bounded by cause and effect period..not good and evil.  those are simply abstract concepts not reality.  somethng rks or it does not

That's absolutely correct.

Though the misconception is that social evolution is linked to technological advance, because this is not true. There's no connection between social evolution and terrestrial technology. The human social structure wouldn't be in such a shambles if that were true. Our technologies are in fact a distraction from our social evolution. And what we really have is an imbalance. An imbalance that weighs more heavily on the side of survival needs than social evolution.

Okay, and this imbalance is actually what Evil is.

As the word Evil is Live spelled backwards.

By which the true meaning of Evil is to live backwards.

In other words, out of balance.

are you sure ::confused::

take another look at society from a class perspective..see how one class came to replace another class in history and why ..see the birth of classes, what they did, how they lived and how their way came to dominate in an already established society, way of life,....and how such classes grew powerful within that establishement ultimately pushing it over and taking its place ::confused::

then displace or disprove the fact that social upheaval, social violence of any kind and quality comes from the nature of the class relations of society..  ::confused::

remember these facts:  historically there was a communal matriliny that was the first form of human social organizations,...
that's right! organized human society emerged from the wild under a female dominated communism.  how did that change?
look to male domination rising up out of technological advance that finally brought the male into play socially.  that technological advance turned the matriliny on its head led to male domination and the reverse of what was the case..male domination for female domination

then male domination, that revolution started what is a whole paradigm of exploitation of man by man- the fatherhood...exploitative society in which we saw ancient slavery and kings, pockets of capitalism, feudalism to modern manufacturing capitalism, now finally to finance capitalist domination of society..that is a paradigm of exploitation that is in its last stages,  an end at the point of 2 social options.. one awful, one the best of all possible worlds.

see the role of technological advance and see if the group that developed the strongest, most apt advanced technique did not ultimately dominate and their way did revolutionize society.  look for the working class for instance..the modern working class... and see if they always existed..and if not how did that class come into being

when you figure that out you will  have a better idea of the role of technology in revolutionizing social relations

I'm positive Map.

The birth of classes, and the human patterns of domination over other humans is caused by something else, and it's a beaten path toward false survival needs and nothing else. And the matriarchal life our species began with turning patriarchal is a part of that cause. The shift is not linked to technology, but technology is linked to the change. Technology itself is linked to laziness. Creating equipment to take the take the place of labor and thinking, as with the rise of patriarchy came laziness Map. So our technologies are a distraction from our rightful course because it keeps the mind and body lazy and greedy for gratification. The change from matriarchy to patriarchy was a traumatic fall from grace, that's taking us all of these ages to recover from and get back to the matriarchal existence we started with.

It's as Karl Marx once said:

"The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people."

Our technologies are a distraction from our recovery and evolution.

And this imbalance is the true definition of Evil. As once again, the word Evil is Live spelled backwards. To live backwards is living out of balance, and it's the imbalance we live that's suffering all of humanity.

And these class structures as you mentioned, in due time all falls, because it falls in line with nature's death and regenerative pattern. Everything dies or passes and renews. So a class that ruled before will be removed by another class. Look at how just recently, say 50 years ago, how everything white was right and proper and everything black was bad and sullen, but today, we see whites imitating the same qualities of blacks that were classified as bad and sullen. Nature does something else with our beliefs. It breaks down and processes or recycles our imbalanced living with evolution. And this is what you are mistaking to be the result of technology. So what was once unthinkable, today is common. Who ever thought that a black slave would ever be free? And who certainly ever thought that America would have a black president? What nature is doing is processing our imbalance into evolution, whether we're consciously aware of it or not.

Every civilization arouse, climaxed, and fell, because these institutions are distractions from our course. What we think of them isn't what the universe thinks of them. And the universe is leading us to something else. Understand?

It's slowly leading us to our completion.