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27 Jun 2016 16:50 #309936 by TRINIDADDY
Old people want to leave the EU because they are simpleminded and blame their lives and problems on "migration".

Middle aged people want to leave the EU because they want higher wages.

Young people want to stay in the EU because they're generally more liberal and see "union" as some kind of vague, "good thing".

The EU was a tool for ultra capitalists. Aside from streamlining certain worker rights, and forcing some boundaries and environmental laws upon capitalists, it was/is very harmful. It didn't exist to put people first. In many cases it made wars easier.

The idea that the UK "left the EU" is also silly. The UK is a Big Fish. It was never meaningfully in the EU. 99 percent of the time, the UK got exactly what it wanted when it fought against EU laws. Unlike all other EU nations, the UK also uses its own currency, and never signed away its soul to the IMF and ECB. For example, other nations in the EU can be legally forced to bail out or lend to other nations; the UK cannot. It makes the rules, and has countless veto powers.

The idea that the UK "loses money" to the EU is also silly. Something like 0.9 percent of its GDP goes to the EU; minor. The UK is a Big Fish. Nothing significant will change by it leaving the EU.

Brexit just shifts power from one set of capitalists to another; from European businesses to the London banking sector.

The idea that Brexit will lead to higher wages and that the UK will now have "better control of migration" is also silly (Japan is a superpower with negligible immigration and its wages constantly fall as debt to gdp ratios rise). Capitalism needs a constant and fluid supply of migrant labourers. Brits might hate and scapegoat European migrants, but if they don't take them in from Europe, they're going to have to start taking them in from Africa, India and Asia. And these decisions come from the Treasury, who annually release "migration recommendations" to the other arms of the Government. And everyone listens to the Treasury, because the Treasury listens to the banks, and when it comes to banks, thine will be done.

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27 Jun 2016 16:54 #309937 by ketchim
On Earth as it is in Heaven.

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27 Jun 2016 17:16 #309939 by ketchim

Be that as it may they are living til 90  ;)

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27 Jun 2016 21:11 - 27 Jun 2016 21:20 #309963 by mapoui

the general impression in this article is not true.  Brussels was gaining more and more power all the time at the expense of the British nation.... to the extent that all the counter powers listed here that Britain is supposed to have had, had been eroded..were steadily eroding into unelected bureaucratic Brussels power pockets.

Blair and David Cameron were for the transfer or total British power to Brussels.  that is what they were engaged in.  they were building a monster europe that had nutten to do with the desires of the european people.  there is no european people and no european nation wants Brussels, or any kind of euro state. 

but the people building the EU don't care about that.  that is not their purpose or concern.  their purpose is to build a structure that gives them total social control of europe and that's it.  what it means to the people on the ground they don't care.  they were about to build an army and police to enforce the structure they want... the people be dammed.

in fact that is what they are building everywhere.  its called the new world order but it is nothing but government by corporations through an unelected bureaucracy that controls the world in their way the people be dammed.

that is what politicians every where are involved in at the moment..even in Caricom.  again it is called the New World Order.

all else is minutiae..details..old talk.  they are trying to build a global corporate state..for corporations..the only way the capitalist can keep global social control..before they lose it all in a tide of revolutionary change

and as for ketchim and his breakdown on how the young professionals voted for europe... who cares >:( >:(  they were in an election that they lost fuh phuck sakes.  THEY LOST! 

what am I supposed to do: take their point of view and make a capital case on which to hang Brexit ::confused::  I am not even thinking about them.  they lost and now they must adjust to that reality.

so they lost what the hell ::confused:: ::confused:: ::confused:: what are they some kind of special people, better than those who also work for a living, and cant see their way due to european dictates ::confused::

things change and humans must adjust.  if they cant or wont, or both, phuck them!  they are not special, better than everybody else. just because they stupidly want a structure built to enslave them we all must agree to be slaves as well ::confused:: 

let all the skunt and dem migrate to Scotland,. separate from Britain and sail off to effing Brussells and the NWO
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28 Jun 2016 10:00 #309995 by 654321
Unfortunate resultant of Brexit. Racists think 52% of UK supports them. Now bigotry is out in the open.

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28 Jun 2016 10:30 #310000 by ketchim
Brussels ??  only claim to fame is NATO

one sectioned and divided Capital

No economy except a couple head Offices... :-[

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28 Jun 2016 10:47 - 28 Jun 2016 10:59 #310006 by mapoui
but it does not matter who racist as long as the EU is killed

the EU would not/will not/cannot solve the race problem.  racism is a product of capitalist inequitous society.  the EU is the same..a capitalist exploitation producing inequalities every minute of its existence.

WHEN ALLYUH SUPPORT THE EU ALLYUH SUPPORT RACISM AND GENERAL INEQUALITY SAME WAY..IN EVEN GREATER PROPORTIONS THAN IN ENGLAND.

but allyuh must know that.  allyuh not stupid and illiterate.  allyuh know full well what all is involved in this..especially sketchim who is racist and elitist himself.

that is the problem..rather issue with him.  he cyar get the class favoritism he thinks is his right so he want to kill the Brexit as if only ordinary people vote for it.  but a lot of the major opposition to the EU were and are capitalist conservatives themselves who do not wish to be over-lorded and dictated to by an all powerful bureaucracy in Brussels


in my case I don't give a shiite about no professional. 'educated' middle classes who feel deh entitled to a society that works in their favor regardless of who that society penalizes to make sure that they ok.

ketchim an dem feel ENTITLED BY RIGHT THAT SOCIETY MUS' WUK FUH DEM AND WHO CARES ABOUT THE REST. 

to hell with all ah dem I say..an' all ah allyuh too who feel dat way.  is wood fuh all ah allyuh as we go.  lixxx in aryuh rarse.  allyuh class is dead like the do do bird..allyuh jess doh know it yet.

aryuh are the counter revolution in waiting.  when the people make the revolution AS USUAL ALLYUH FEEL BY ALLYUH 'EDUCATION' ENTITLED TO RUN THE REVOLUTION BECAUSE THE PEOPLE DOH KNOW  BETTER, DEH ARE TOO STUPID.  SO ALLYUH TAKE OVER AND BRING IN ALLYUH DICTATORSHIP WHICH IS THE SAME AS IT WAS WITH THE CAPITALIST..ONLY ALLYUH TAKE THE CAPITALIST PLACE.

JUST LIKE NOW THE PEOPLE VOTE TO END THE DANGEROUS EUROPEAN UNION AND ALLYUH VEX LIKE RARSE ABOUT THAT..SERIOUSLY VEX, WANT TO REVERSE IT  AND ALL THAT.

is lixxx in allyuh rarse.  there is no way dat happening.  allyuh go scotland.  tell yuh relative to go Scotland and run she european business from deh

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ALLYUH CLASS SPOIL EVERY REVOLUTION MAN HAS MADE JUST LIKE THAT.  BUT NOT THIS TIME..OR NEXT TIME.  IS TO KILL ALLYUH RASE LONG BEFORE ALLYUH GET ANY OPPORTUNITY TO REVERSE THE REVOLUTION
Last edit: 28 Jun 2016 10:59 by mapoui.

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28 Jun 2016 10:50 #310008 by ketchim
I do NOT intend to live in Europe.

Is the United Arab Emirates having a Referendum  :P

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28 Jun 2016 10:54 #310011 by ketchim
"let all the skunt and dem migrate to Scotland,. separate from Britain and sail off to

effing Brussells and the NWO'


You NOT making sense ...above just said that Scotland subsidy of 44bn sterling can be pulled.

I just told you that Brussels only claim to fame is NATO head Office

and a City where one nationality CANNOT enter another's ( worse than a Gated community).

Belgium  is doomed with no economic generators !


Mapoui , u need to get off that stupid ArmChair with a Keyboard

and GO visit Belgium, Scotland and SEE for yourself  ::)

Get SKYPE and talk with britons over your Laptop Camera ....

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28 Jun 2016 10:56 #310014 by ketchim
Mapoui . your sense of IMAGINATION : will only take yo so Far

Get Up, Get Out and experience what you are Writing .


the REALITY will kick you in yuh Balls ;)  OUCH !

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